Raccoon vs. bubble wrap

February 21, 2014 • 2:54 pm

Too much evolution and philosophizing makes Jack a dull boy, and so we’ll finish the work week with a few fun animals. This video, sent by reader Ronaldo, show the remarkable psychological similarity between humans and raccoons (Procyon lotor).

‘Fess up: you like to pop the bubbles in bubble wrap, don’t you? I know I do—often to the detriment of my packing. This little guy clearly enjoys it, too. Much as I tried to interpret his actions as looking for food, in the end I concluded he’s just having fun.

h/t: Ronaldo

Fulsome accommodationism at the AAAS meeting

February 21, 2014 • 12:13 pm

This video really makes me queasy, for it’s made and partially funded by America’s largest association of scientists, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, or AAAS. And that organization has an official program to reconcile science and religion, the “Dialogue on Science, Ethics, and Religion,” also called the DoSER program (information here). DoSER is an example of the Templeton Foundation putting its sticky fingers into science; for Templeton started DoSER in 1996 with a 5.3 million dollar grant (!) that ends this month (and I’d bet money it’ll be renewed).

Here’s DoSER’s mission, as quoted on the Templeton site:

These grants established the AAAS program, Dialogue on Science, Ethics, and Religion (DoSER), and provide support for its ongoing infrastructure costs. DoSER engages the public on a range of questions in science and religion, including evolution, cosmology, astrobiology, and human evolution. The program seeks to establish stronger relationships between the scientific and religious communities and promotes multidisciplinary education and scholarship on the ethical and religious implications of advancements in science and technology.

I wonder how many AAAS members even know—or would approve if they knew—about the DoSER program. It is, in effect, a theological enterprise of a scientific organization, one devoted to telling the faithful that there’s no conflict between their beliefs and science—including evolution.

The head of DoSer is Jennifer Wiseman, who appears in this video along with a younger interlocutor whose name I can’t find (correct me if you find it). Wiseman is a Christian astronomer and head of the American Scientific Affiliation, a group of Christian scientists. The Test of FAITH website says this about her, though I don’t think she’s still president of the ASA:

 [Wiseman] is also the current Council President of the American Scientific Affiliation, and she enjoys speaking to student and church groups on the excitement of seeing God’s beauty and creativity in nature.

So here, filmed during last week’s AAAS meeting in Chicago, is Wiseman and her colleague promoting accommodation by interviewing Galen Carey from the National Association of Evangelicals, as well our old friend sociologist Elaine Eckland of Rice University, who has been funded by five Templeton grants and who has used her Templeton money to show that science and religion are perfectly compatible. She likes to take her survey data and twist it to show that scientists are far more friendly to religion than people think, and vice versa.

Most of the discussion in the video below is about Ecklund’s recent survey of the beliefs of scientists and religionists.

So what happens when you get a Templeton-funded Christian scientist interviewing a Templeton-funded sociologist on the question of whether science and religion can coexist? Guess! It’s a regular love-fest, with the answer not even remotely in dispute from the outset.

The AAAS site is Live Chat: Can science and religion coexist?, and the nearly hour-long video “chat” is embedded below. Watch it if you dare. I did watch the whole thing and nearly required insulin for the excessive sweetness and light. If you make it through the whole thing I will congratulate you. I do hope, however, that at least some of my fellow scientists find this AAAS endorsement of accommodationism (with an evangelical Christian chiming in, for crying out loud!) repugnant:

Here are a few highlights, if you can call them that:

12:00: The mission of this conversation is explicitly accommodationist, as Ecklund notes that her work is aimed at trying not to alienate religious people who want to go into science. She also mentions darkly the “implications for the funding of science” (i.e., don’t alienate religious legislators). Carey notes that religion can enhance the science-religion dialogue by adding “voices that bring a moral sensibility to the conversation.” (As if the faithful were more moral than scientists!)

Wiseman adds that accommodationism helps us retain science talent that would be otherwise alienated by science’s “overreaching into areas that science isn’t equipped to address”. The alienation of the faithful is, apparently, muddled by misperceptions that scientists have about the faithful, and vice versa. In other words, Ecklund, Wiseman et al. “want to make sure that we can move as much as we can away from misperceptions so we can have more honest dialogue.” There’s a lot of this fluffy talk throughout the conversation.

Carey, when asked, then defines evangelicals as those who take the Bible seriously, trust in Jesus as saviour and lord, focus on Bible as an authority for living, and try to discover how they have a personal relationship with Jesus. What is this doing in an AAAS-sponsored conservation?

17:20: The discussion turns to what science and religion have in common. What can bring them together? Ecklund notes that both show a “concern for diversity in American society” (e.g., fair gender representation),  as well as a desire to increasing the diversity of science by bringing in more religious people. Ecklund’s agenda, and that of DoSER, becomes manifestly clear here.

25:00: Carey says we shouldn’t ask scientists to provide data on “spiritual realities”, even though “Spiritual reality is there, but has to be approached with different methods and tools.” This is an explicit admission of a disparity, and a serious one, between science and religion. Carey admits that religion is looking for reality, but using tools different from those employed by science. Those tools, of course, are revelation and dogma—completely useless for finding any kind of relity.

29:30: Ecklund notes that, among Evangelicals, 42% favor teaching creationism instead of evolution, but the figure is only 13% for mainline Christians. That’s certainly a conflict! But of course she qualifies the figure by saying that evangelicals support science as much as does the general population. She is, in other words, getting around data that she doesn’t like. Notice how Ecklund nods along in agreement with what the evangelical Carey says. Good feelings and brotherhood all around!

33:30: Carey makes the outrageous claim that religion, like science, tests its claims every day, differing from science only in which tools are used for the testing. Right: empirical observation and reason versus revelation and authority.

Ecklund then promotes initiatives from the AAAS asking for more “collaboration” and “creative dialogue” for the sake of “everyone’s good”. The AAAS should try to get religious people together with scientists and “talk through the issues.” (It’s not clear to me what such a dialogue will really accomplish.) Once real agreement on some issues is established, then, says Ecklund “we can go forward with some of the much harder issues”. Like trying to get creationists to accept evolution?

37:15: Wiseman notes that religion can address questions that science can’t. Indeed, say I, but “addressing” questions is not the same as answering them.  She also implies that scientists aren’t really that good about interacting well with the public, and that scientists need to “be more communicative about their lives as a whole.”

45:30: The participants discuss how a religion-science dialogue can “help the planet.” Science is supposed to “provide the information,” but people “are the portal for that information, and “many people are religious”. That’s a pretty tenuous form of collaboration, cooked up to show false comity. I suppose the dialogue here is aimed at finding common ground between religious people and scientists so they can collaborate in matters of common interest. But I think they already are doing that (e.g., promoting environmental conservation), and further dialogue isn’t going to help matters much. Moreover, that dialogue, to me, merely gives credibility to magical thinking—the elephant in the room that is totally ignored in this conversation. 

Near the end, someone mentions that a collaboration between science and religion will help bring out the “broader context of scientific discoveries” because “religious communities are better at that”. That’s a base canard, for secular humanists and philosophers are also good at that. Why not foster a dialogue between philosophers and science instead? After all, most philosophers don’t believe in magical thinking.

The whole aspect missing in this “dialogue” is the recognition that science is more than just what professional scientists do for a living. It’s also a way of thinking about the world. And that way of thinking is in complete opposition to the way that people like Carey think about the world, at least about the world’s “realities.”

In the end, I’m still baffled by these repeated calls for “dialogue” between scientists and religious folks. These calls never come from secular scientists, but from religious people or religious scientists.

I don’t see the point of such a dialogue, or an attempt (costing millions of dollars) to find “common ground.” Like Steven Weinberg, I believe in a dialogue, but not a constructive one. I believe in a dialogue in which scientists undermine the habits of magical thinking and the reliance on faith. As for the faithful, I don’t think they have one iota to contribute to science.

Get the popcorn: Sean Carroll goes at it hammer and tongs with William Lane Craig—livestreamed tonight!

February 21, 2014 • 9:02 am

I’m sure we’ll all be rooting for Official Website Physicist™ Sean Carroll as he begins his two-day series of debates and discussions with William “Kill the Canaanites” Craig this evening. And you can watch tonight’s debate live (see below). The topic is whether modern cosmology gives any evidence for God, and you can read all the preliminaries here.

As Sean said on his website yesterday (my emphasis):

Tomorrow (Friday) is the big day: the debate with William Lane Craig at the Greer-Heard Forum, as I previously mentioned. And of course the event continues Saturday, with contributions from Tim Maudlin, Alex Rosenberg, Robin Collins, and James Sinclair.

I know what you’re asking: will it be live-streamed? Yes indeed!

Fun starts at 8pm Eastern, 5pm Pacific. (Corrected from earlier goof.) The format is an opening 20-minute speech by WLC and me (in that order), followed by 12-minute rebuttals, and then 8-minute closing statements, and concluding with 40 minutes of audience questions. Official Twitter hashtag is #GreerHeard14, which I believe you can use to submit questions for the Q&A. I wouldn’t lie to you: I think this will be worth watching.

Sean seems to be actually raising expectations for his performance, for his post continues:

I want to make the case for naturalism, and to do that it’s obviously necessary to counter any objections that get raised. Moreover, I think that expectations (for me) should be set ridiculously high. The case I hope to make for naturalism will be so impressively, mind-bogglingly, breathtakingly strong that it should be nearly impossible for any reasonable person to hear it and not be immediately convinced. Honestly, I’ll be disappointed if there are any theists left in the audience once the whole thing is over.

That sounds like a bit of a joke given that there will be many WLC supporters in the audience, but maybe he’s serious.

h/t: Peter

Another paper on “folk intuitions” about free will: Nahmias et al.

February 21, 2014 • 7:38 am

To complement the paper of Sarkissian et al., which I wrote about the other day, I’ll present as briefly as I can the results of an earlier paper on beliefs about free will by Eddy Nahmias et al. (references to both papers are at bottom, free download on this one).

In contrast to the results of Sarkissian et al., Nahmias et al. conclude that the “average person” (in this case, students “drawn from an Honors student colloquium and several introductory philosophy classes at Florida State University”) were compatibilists about free will. In other words, given a hypothetical “deterministic” universe in which the future was completely determined by the laws of nature acting on the present situation, students still believed that in many concrete situations requiring “moral” judgement, individuals retained free will and moral responsibility for their actions.

Nahmias et al. posed three sets of questions to the students.

CASE 1

Students were given a deterministic scenario and asked two questions about it. Here’s the scenario:

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As with the Sarkissian et al. paper, there is no quantum indeterminacy in this scenario, which almost certainly means that one cannot deduce the future state of the universe from the present one, but I don’t think that would affect the results, and at any rate it would be hard to explain to undergraduates the idea of pure indeterminacy.

The students were first asked if the scenario given above was possible. The majority of the students said “no” for various reasons (including quantum indeterminacy!), but also for nondeterministic reasons, like “the computer could never acquire that much information.” Like the students in the Sarkissian et al. study (the latter from four countries), then, these students were not deterministic.

Then the crucial question about free will:

Regardless of how you answered question 1, imagine such a supercomputer actually did exist and actually could predict the future, including Jeremy’s robbing the bank (and assume Jeremy does not know about the prediction):
Do you think that, when Jeremy robs the bank, he acts of his own free will?

76% of the students said “yes,” indicating a compatibilist view of free will. Given the deterministic scenario, it’s clear that either this is genuine compatibilist free will exercised in a deterministic universe, or else the students believed in libertarian free will despite the deterministic scenario! That would understand an inability to comprehend true determinism.

To test whether the students accepted free will only because Jeremy did something bad, Nahmias et al. also asked them if Jeremy had free will in this deterministic universe if either b) went jogging (a “neutral” action) or c) saved a child from a burning building (a “praiseworthy” action). They were also asked if Jeremy had moral responsibility in the bank-robbing and saving-child situations.

In all cases the results were “yes”, with more than 60% of the students agreeing that Jeremy had both free will and moral responsibility. Here are the results given in bar charts:

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As the authors note, as have other philosophers like Dan Dennett, judgements of moral responsibility are closely aligned with those of free will.

CASE 2

In this study, the authors wanted to see if the respondents thought that Jeremy could have acted otherwise in this situation. They call this the “ability to choose otherwise” (ACO), and this is what many see as a libertarian notion of free will. The authors describe the question:

In these cases, participants were asked—again, imagining the scenario were actual—whether or not Jeremy could have chosen not to rob the bank (case 6), whether he could have chosen not to save the child (case 7), or whether he could have chosen not to go jogging.

The bar graph gives the ACO (“could have chosen otherwise” figures compared to those already given for judgement about whether Jeremy had free will:

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The authors summarize these data:

In the blameworthy variation, participants’ judgments of Jeremy’s ability to choose otherwise (ACO) did in fact track the judgments of free will and responsibility we collected, with 67% responding that Jeremy could have chosen not to rob the bank. However, in the praiseworthy case, judgments of ACO were significantly different from judgments of his free will and responsibility: Whereas a large majority of participants had judged that Jeremy is free and responsible for saving the child, a majority (62%) answered ‘‘no’’ to the question: ‘‘Do you think he could have chosen not to save the child?’’ Finally, in the morally neutral case, judgments of ACO were also significantly different from judgments of free will—again, whereas a large majority had judged that Jeremy goes jogging of his own free will, a majority (57%) answered ‘‘no’’ to the question: ‘‘Do you think he could have chosen not to go jogging?’’

I have two comments here.  I’m puzzled that despite the presentation of an explicitly deterministic scenario for human action, 67% of the students still concluded that Jeremy could have chosen not to rob the bank. While that could superficially be seen as compatibilism, it also seems to be a compatibilism based largely on an acceptance of libertarian free will, so that perhaps the students don’t understand the real conflict between libertarianism and determinism.

Second, the notion of “choosing otherwise” may mean different things in a praiseworthy versus a blameworthy situation. In the bank-robbing situation, it may mean that the students really did think Jeremy had a choice. In the “save-a-child” situtation, it may mean that it would be unthinkable for Jeremy not to save the child, so “no choice” is a sign of moral duty, not freedom of will.

CASE 3

The authors proffered a third scenario because of the possibility that [they] “did not make the deterministic nature of the scenario salient enough to the participants.” (They were worried that the “supercomputer” example was not clear enough in mandating determinism.) They thus described a third scenario corresponding to determinism based on genes and environment:

Imagine there is a world where the beliefs and values of every person are caused completely by the combination of one’s genes and one’s environment. For instance, one day in this world, two identical twins, named Fred and Barney, are born to a mother who puts them up for adoption. Fred is adopted by the Jerksons and Barney is adopted by the Kindersons. In Fred’s case, his genes and his upbringing by the selfish Jerkson family have caused him to value money above all else and to believe it is OK to acquire money however you can. In Barney’s case, his (identical) genes and his upbringing by the kindly Kinderson family have caused him to value honesty above all else and to believe one should always respect others’ property. Both Fred and Barney are intelligent individuals who are capable of deliberating about what they do.

One day Fred and Barney each happen to find a wallet containing $1000 and the identification of the owner (neither man knows the owner). Each man is sure there is nobody else around. After deliberation, Fred Jerkson, because of his beliefs and values, keeps the money. After deliberation, Barney Kinderson, because of his beliefs and values, returns the wallet to its owner.

Given that, in this world, one’s genes and environment completely cause one’s beliefs and values, it is true that if Fred had been adopted by the Kindersons, he would have had the beliefs and values that would have caused him to return the wallet; and if Barney had been adopted by the Jerksons, he would have had the beliefs and values that would have caused him to keep the wallet.

The result were these: 76% of the participants judged that Barney returned the wallet and Fred kept it of their own free will.  That result is similar to the figures from the Jeremy scenario. Further, 60% of the participants judged Fred blameworthy for keeping the wallet and 64% of the participants found Barney praiseworthy for returning it. These views were concordant 90% of the time. Finally, 76% of the participants judged that both Fred and Barney “could have done otherwise.”

Again, this evinces a superficial compatibilism, but I am a bit worried about the last result.  Clearly, in a deterministic universe—one in which Fred and Barney’s actions were completely determined by their genes and environment—each could have made only one decision. Either the students do not understand what “could have done otherwise” means, or they have a very sophisticated notion, à la Dennett, of what it does mean, which is that at any given moment either decision was not possible in identical circumstances, but in slightly different circumstances a different decision was possible.

Although the authors note that the students’ replies indicate that they were compatibilist, I am worried that the students still don’t fully comprehend what determinism really means, something that I think philosophers need to clarify when asking such questions. I simply don’t think they’re sophisticated enough to comport “I could have behaved otherwise” with accepting a purely deterministic world. To the authors’ credit, though, they too worry about this.

I won’t summarize the authors’ discussion, but it’s a very good summary of the state of the art, with all the proper caveats and possible objections to their results. On the whole, I liked the paper.

I am of course a “hard incompatibilist”, but the subject of these papers was not to judge whether compatibilism or incompatibilism is the philosophically proper stance. Rather, Nahmias et al. and Sarkissian et al. had identical tasks: are most people compatibilists or incompatibilists? The former says “compatibilists”; the latter “incompatibilists.” How do we reconcile these conflicting results?

As Sarkissian et al. note, perhaps the students tend to be incompatibilists when presented with a scenario asking them to choose “world views”—the vast majority of students in their four-country samples were not determinists and did accept free will—while students tend to be compatibilists when presented, as did Nahmias et al., with more concrete moral dilemmas. This disparity deserves further exploration. But I also think that philosophers who are physical determinists (while accepting some quantum indeterminacy) need to work harder to convey that view to the public. After all, most secular philosophers dealing with this issue are deterministics. The difficulty of limning determinism might be evinced in some of the counterintutive results of the Nahmias et al. paper.

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Nahmias, E., S. Morris, T. Nadelhoffer, and J. turner. 2006. Surveying freedom: Folk intuitions about free will and moral responsibility. Philosohical Psychology 18:561-584.

Sarkissian, H., A. Chatterjee, F. De Brigard, J. Knobe, N. S., and S. Sirker. 2010. Is belief in free will a cultural universal? Mind & Language 25:346-358.

New Republic publishes my Shroud of Turin piece

February 21, 2014 • 5:40 am

Just for the record, The New Republic has published my Shroud of Turin piece—moderately rewritten, touched up, and supplemented with other stuff. They’ve called the piece “Pseudo-scientists are still trying to convince you that the Shroud of turin is real. Don’t believe them.” Thanks to the readers’ suggestions, I’ve added Richard Carrier’s objections to the “earthquake hypothesis” and also linked to Greg Paul’s article noting the unrealistic proportions of the “Jesus” image on the Shroud.  So kudos to those who called this extra stuff to my attention.  I can’t give you part of my stipendiary emolument (which, believe me, is extremely modest), but, as always, I’ll continue writing here for your delectation without remuneration.

And I’m sure The New Republic would appreciate clicking on the link.

And here’s your reward for so doing: a baby bear (yes, I know they’re called “cubs) climbing his first tree (from a tw**t by “Zoo Keeper Dobie!”)

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Friday: Hili Dialogue

February 21, 2014 • 4:40 am

It’s Friday! Which seat can you take? And, in Poland, it’s mid-afternoon, where Editor-in-Chief Hili learns how onerous her duties will be:

Hili: What are the duties of the editor-in-chief besides sitting in this armchair?
A: She is supposed to purr with contentment.

Hili

In Polish:

Hili: Jakie jeszcze obowiązki ma redaktor naczelna, oprócz siedzenia na tym fotelu?
Ja: Ma mruczeć z zadowolenia.

Girl orphaned by snake-handling parents writes in

February 20, 2014 • 2:11 pm

The other day I published a post about a snake-handling Pentecostal Christian, Jamie Coots, who was recently killed by a rattler in a Kentucky Church in the service of Jesus. I also posted a link to a video showing yet another woman, Melinda Brown, killed in 1995 in the same church doing the same thing. The video showed her husband, Punkin Brown, saying that her death from the snakebite meant that it was simply “her appointment to die.” And Punkin himself died of a snakebite three years later, leaving their five kids as orphans.

Now one of these children, Sarah Brown—or someone who claims to be her—has left a comment on this site. I haven’t yet verified this as real, and may not be able to, though the geographic area checks out. And an article from the L. A. Times about Punkin’s death in 1998 and the custody battle over his children shows that he did indeed have a daughter named Sarah, and that she was five at the time. That would make her 21 now.

So let us assume, for the nonce, that the comment below is real, and from Sarah. If it is, it’s ineffably sad, and I have nothing to add.

Sarah brown commented on Religion poisons everything: Another snake-handler bites the dust

I just want to say that the word is still true no matter what happens… I am Punkin and melinda browns daughter the one pictured above and no matter what happens in this life it doesnt change Gods word… it was simply just their time to go… no matter if they were in church or driving down the road their names was called just as it was Brother Jamies [Coots] time to go…. and that is alll id like to say…

Here’s the picture of Melinda and, apparently, Sarah that accompanied my original article:

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Annie Laurie Gaylor defends the removal of Bibles from Iowa State University

February 20, 2014 • 1:44 pm

As I mentioned the other day, Iowa State University, after receiving a warning letter from the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), backed down and removed the Bibles that were in every one of its university guest rooms. (ISU is a public university, so that violates the First Amendment). Apparently Sean Hannity, conservative host of Fox News, thinks his religious feelings trump the Constitution, and he debates the issue with FFRF co-president Annie Laurie Gaylor on Fox News. (The link goes to the five-minute video, which I can’t embed.)

Hannity calls the FFRF a “left-wing radical atheist group,” which is really a stretch. Annie Laurie makes some good arguments, including the one I raised (why not put The God Delusion those rooms, as well?), and Hannity keeps rudely interrupting her. Listen to how rude that man is!

Some people think that Annie Laurie is too kind and gentle a soul to debate a rude loon like Hannity, but I disagree. She comes across as reasonable but firm, and Hannity as some kind of bully. (Of course he’s preaching to the choir.) And don’t be deceived by her demeanor: she’s a tough customer when it comes to the Constitution.

Ironically, Hannity tells her that “You guys on the left—you’re just intolerant,” and accuses her of using this incident to raise money for the FFRF.