My troubles with eBay: reporting illegal items made from endangered sea turtle

August 9, 2026 • 10:45 am

I haven’t displayed a pair of cowboy boots here in a long time, but that’s because I’ve stopped buying them. I must now have over a hundred pair: one symptom of my addiction to buying certain items (viz. wine and cigars); but I’ve stopped.  I do take credit for getting Steve Pinker to recognize the merits of cowboy boots, which I consider the only attractive item of male footwear. Women have a gazillion kinds of attractive shoes, but men do not. Except for cowboy boots, I find men’s shoes either plain or downright ugly.

During my boot-buying phase, I got most of my boots on eBay, where you could get some terrific bargains, sometimes nearly new boots at about 15% the retail price. I’ve published photos in the past, but most have been removed in the Big Photo Wipe when I had to take down every photo over more than a decade because of copyright claims (I can’t selectively removed photos).

One kind of boot I stayed away from, though, are those made from endangered species.  The most prominent of these are boots made from sea turtle leather (they use the flipper). These were made in the U.S. and Mexico decades ago (they may still be making them in Mexico), but, as Grok tells us, selling anything made from sea turtle is now illegal in the U.S. Here’s a question I asked Grok, and its answer (along with references)

Is it illegal to sell anything made from sea turtle?
Yes, in the United States and most countries, it is generally illegal to sell products made from sea turtles (or their parts, such as shells, leather, or “tortoiseshell”).  
fws.gov
All seven living sea turtle species are protected. In the U.S., the six species found in U.S. waters (green, hawksbill, Kemp’s ridley, leatherback, loggerhead, and olive ridley) are listed as endangered or threatened under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). This makes it unlawful to sell or offer them for sale in interstate or foreign commerce, and the prohibitions extend to parts and products.

They are also listed on CITES Appendix I, which largely bans commercial international trade in the animals, their parts, or products. Import or export requires permits and is allowed only in exceptional (usually non-commercial) cases.

Key U.S. details from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service

  • Sea turtle shell and leather products (e.g., jewelry, combs, boots, belts, handbags, inlays) generally cannot be sold in interstate or international commerce. Limited exceptions may exist; contact the Service. Permits are required for import/export.
  • Sale within a single state may be allowed in some circumstances unless restricted by state law or CITES “use after import” rules. Many states prohibit it, and online sales frequently cross state lines (making them interstate).

Enforcement is active—people have been charged for selling sea turtle skin boots or listing shells for sale online.

I’ve seen sea turtle boots, and they’re easy to distinguish from sea turtle prints, which is simply leather stamped with the characteristic polygonal scale pattern of turtles (boots made from alligator and crocodile, not illegal, are easy to distingish because their scales are rectangular or square).

 

But I still get notices from eBay, as I’ve asked to be notified when “sea turtle boots” appear for sale. As a boot collector and a biologist who is conservation-minded, it steams me up when I see these things, and will report them if I see that they’re genuine turtle.

Sellers have learned that eBay doesn’t permit selling anything made with sea turtle, so they disguise the descriptions when they’re selling the real thing.  Here’s an item I saw this morning, which looks like genuine sea turtle but whose identity is confirmed two ways. First, by the way they describe the item, with “print’ in quotes and a drawing of a turtle:

The “pre-ban” refers to this stipulation from CITES (Convention on International Trade in Engandered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora) about what endangered-species items can be sold:

Antiques: Items that are at least 100 years old, composed in whole or part of an ESA-listed species, not repaired or modified with such material after December 27, 1973, and meeting other criteria (including documentation of age/provenance) may qualify for an ESA antiques exemption. These can sometimes be sold in interstate/foreign commerce (CITES paperwork may still apply). Proving qualification is strict.

fws.gov

But of course if the boots advertised are really “prints,” you don’t need to refer to the ban. Further, no “pre-ban” boots are exceptions unless they’re over 100 years old.

This is what real sea turtle looks like (a photo from the listing). Note the cracks between the scales and the irregularity of pattern between boots: a clue to their authenticity.

So we have eBay illegally selling boots made of protected species. What can one do to stop it? Well, I could just say that I know sea turtle and these are sea turtle, but eBay doesn’t usually take my word for it (after all these years, though, they should). So to prove their illegality, I write to the seller and simply ask what they are. Are they prints, as advertised, or real turtle? The seller will often admit to me that yes, they are real, but he/she has to disguise them because they know that they are listing illegal boots. Here’s my correspondence from this morning in which the seller admits that they’re real turtle:

That’s an arrant admission that they’re real turtle.

Armed with this correspondence, I reported the to eBay (there’s a small question mark at the bottom right of each eBay item where you can report items for various reasons). I asked eBay to take the item off sale.  And I enclosed a copy of the incriminating correspondence.

You’d think that, seeing this, eBay would remove the item, as I asked in my report. But nooooo; they “reviewed” my report and, as they often do, they rejected it:

Did I give up? Of course not! But contacting eBay by phone is hard; using their phone number doesn’t work, so you have to go through the AI “assistant,” and eventually demand that they call you.

eBay farms out complaints to an Indian call center, and once you reach them you know that you’re in for at least twenty minutes of being put on hold and explaining the problem several times over. Sometimes it takes an hour, and I’ll put my phone on speaker while working away.  Today the agent told me that they’ll kick my appeal upstairs and I’ll be informed of its disposition.

Really, eBay, if you’re reading this, I hope you start enforcing your policies about endangered species, especially when the seller admits flogging an endangered-species item.  The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service is useless. They are responsible for enforcing the law, but my attempts to get them to do this with eBay have been futile.

Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ irony

July 31, 2026 • 9:00 am

This Jesus and Mo strip, called “meter,” came with the caption, “A Friday Flashback from 2013, back when irony meters were a thing.”

I think Jesus is referring to this incident that Grok looked up:

In early 2013, Abbot Cuthbert Johnson, OSB (former Abbot of Quarr Abbey, advisor to the Vatican’s Vox Clara committee, and consultor to the Congregation for Divine Worship), publicly commented on the new English translation of the Roman Missal (third typical edition, implemented in English-speaking countries from Advent 2011).

Responding to an online survey by The Tablet on the reception of the translation, he said:

“The Tablet’s survey, however, appears to indicate that while there is an openness and a degree of appreciation for the new translation, there is a desire for an improvement that will ensure that the English flows more smoothly, and that the vocabulary, while being more dignified is not, as sometimes appears, a little abstruse and pretentious.”

These remarks stood out because they came from someone inside the Vatican’s translation-oversight structures. The new translation (following the principles of Liturgiam authenticam) had been controversial among some clergy and laity for its more formal, Latinate style; Johnson’s comments were seen as an acknowledgment of criticisms about awkward phrasing or overly elevated vocabulary while still noting some positive reception. He also observed that English texts sometimes need adjustment for musical settings (drawing a parallel to permissions Solesmes Abbey had received for Latin chant).

Johnson (1946–2017) was a respected liturgist and musician who had worked in the Congregation for Divine Worship, contributed extensively to scholarly work on the sources of the Roman Missal, and in 2011 authored Understanding the Roman Missal: The New Translation (Catholic Truth Society), which explained and supported the revised texts.

Well, you have to work hard to find iron in there!

As always, we see the classic Mo behavior here: he exemplifies exactly what he’s criticizing.

Duckling photo and videos

July 25, 2026 • 8:00 am

It’s Saturday, and besides the Caturday felid post (coming up) we have a photo and three videos of Miss Duck and her babies having a postprandial rest on the rockes. This is the first weekiversity of their hatching, as they must have hatched last Saturday and made their way to Botany Pond in the morning. All four babies are doing well, and my hopes for their long-term survival and fledging have risen.

It’s typical for ducks, after a hearty feed, to find a quiet place to sleep.  Miss Duck and her Brood of Four like to rest on a rock at the north end of the pond, with Miss Duck taking a position on the ledge above to watch and guard the brood. First, a photo:

And three short (one-minute) videos of the ducklings resting.  “Rest” is hardly the word, for although they sleep, they also move around, stretch, wake up to have a drink of water, and flap their tiny wings.  Here’s a view of the whole scene”

A closeup of the resting brood. Notice the black feetsies extending out, the scratching and preening, and the nictitating membranes closing when they sleep.

Here they’re more or less sound asleep, and you can measure their breathing rate (I counted 32 breaths in 30 second for the duck in the foreground).  Notice the leg stretch 17 seconds in and a double leg stretch at 42 seconds.

I find watching sleeping ducks very restful, and could do it for hours (I often watch for the one hour that their naps usually last, both to relax and to prevent people from interrupting their nap).

Oh, and a first yesterday: I kissed a squirrel! They are now so tame they climb all over me to get a nut, whether or not I have nuts with me.  One of them, “Skinnytail”, crawls all over my body, climbing up my leg and sometimes perching on my shoulder. Yesterday he sniffed my ear and I could hear him breathe, and when his back was by my mouth, I kissed it to see if I could. This is a first! (Yes, you’ll think me crazy, but I don’t care.)

We have ducklings!

July 15, 2026 • 9:49 am

I can’t believe it! New ducklings on July 15, and likely to be the hottest day of the year.

I’ve been watching the pond regularly, but haven’t seen a hen for at least ten days. I believe it was Margot, named after Margot Fonteyn the ballerina, for the hen had a long, graceful neck. Her partner, the drake Rudolf (Nureyev, of course) hasn’t shown.  This morning I looked on the pondcam and, to my surprise, I saw a hen followed by a bunch of blobs. Ducklings! I ran down to the pond and, sure enough, there was a new brood.

You can see them below in a picture taken at high zoom, so I can’t seem them well enough to know if it’s really Margot, nor do I know how many there are–I think9 or 10.

This is by far the latest brood we’ve had: more often they show up the first two weeks of May.  But Margot hested before and lost her brood to harassing drakes that drove everyone away. Now that we have no drakes, there’s a good chance that this brood will survive to fledging (if they’ll eat), which should be mid-September.  That is not too late to fly, and the weather will be good.

Now you tell me: how many ducklings?

Kamala Harris for President?

July 14, 2026 • 8:45 am

I’m writing this to blow off steam, and also pose a question to readers: “Why were Democrats so enthusiastic about Kamala Harris’s candidacy for President.?” Sure, she was the default candidate and Democrats had to vote for her if they didn’t want the abysmal Trump, but why the outpouring of enthusiasm for someone who seemed palpably unqualified for the Presidency? Whence the “great joy” that Harris brought to some Democrats? Why the “Kamala is brat” memes, with “brat” meaning “confidently rebellious, unapologetically bold, and playfully defiant.”

I want to blow off stem because yesterday I had an “animated discussion” with a good friend about Harris, with my point being that Democrats can’t afford to get really enthusiastic over a lame candidate. He told me that Harris wasn’t lame, that he was enthusiastic over her, and that she lost largely because she was a woman. Then it was off to the races. (Upshot: we’re still friends, but agreed to differ.)

Confession: I voted for neither Harris nor Trump. In Illinois, Harris was sure to get the electoral votes, but I couldn’t stand Trump. Harris, on the other hand, made me queasy.  So I wrote in “Gretchen Whitmer.” If I had to go back, I may well have written in “Pete Buttigieg”, who would be a great candidate in 2028 but people consider him unelectable because he’s gay. (I don’t believe that, by the way. If Americans can elect a black person President, they can elect a gay one. After all, voters elected a sexual assaulter who advocated grabbing women by the genitals, who was married three times, and who paid off a pornstar to keep her mouth shut after having sex with her. Next to that, being gay a godly position.)

Why couldn’t I stand Harris?  For several reasons. First, she lacked gravitas, or even the ability to string together words in a meaningful sentence. I don’t know how many times the phrase “word salad” was used to characterize her speeches and interviews.  Have a gander, and this is typical. (Don’t forget that Harris avoided interviews and speeches during her candidacy.)

She was long on metaphors like the coconut-tree meme and “I can imagine what can be, unburdened by what has been,” and, even for NPR she was short on specifics in her “60 minutes” interview. You’l remember that her words in that piece were edited by CBS to remove some of the salad. That interview, below, is just another word salad.

I could not vote for a President who could not outline their views clearly.

I didn’t disdain Harris because she was a woman; after all, I had no compunction about voting for Hillary Clinton in 2016, and don’t give a hoot about about a candidate’s sex, race, or sexual orientation. What I want is someone who can lead the country. And if you can’t articulate your views, or establish a policy platform, and if you gaslight the American public about “what has been,” you won’t get my vote.

Though averring she was going to distinguish herself from Biden, Harris proffered only a continuation of Biden’s policies—policies on immigration, on economics, and on foreign issues.  She was not particularly pro-Israel, and was insistent that the IDF not go into Rafah (“I’ve looked at the maps,” she said). He campaign focused more on serving up word salad and attacking Trump than on advancing her own policies.

Her past: she was not a particularly good Vice-President, though I realize that the Veep has to make their own jobs. Nevertheless, she was assigned to deal with immigration issues and didn’t do squat. She took the “right” positions on issues like women’s and LGBTQ rights as California’s attorney general as Senator, so I can’t say she was “Trumpish” in any way. My worries are that she went along to get along, wasn’t particularly smart or reflective, was too progressive, and, since she couldn’t put two words together, could not lead in the sense of persuading Americans to go along with her.

Given all this, I was baffled at the outpouring of Demorcratic enthusiasm for her. They not only urged others to vote for her (which was fine), but also extolled her as some kind of iconic Democratic figure (which was not fine). We can’t afford, as liberals, to distort someone’s views and image to win elections.  Rather, we have to find good, solid candidates. Harris was not one. The American public was not fooled by her promises to bring change, nor were they heartened by her incoherence in the few public speeches and interviews she gave.  People weren’t fooled, and she lost.

Our job as liberals (and for me as a left-centrist) is to find candidates who have the potential to be leaders, and can articulate a vision.  I think Pete Buttigieg is one, but can’t think of others, though of course both Clinton and Obama emerged at the last minute to win the Presidency. Please put below the candidates you’re enthusiastic for now.

In his column in today’s NYT (archived here), Thomas Edsall mentions three issues that the Democrats  must be “normies” about if they’re to win (“normies” means adhering to the majority Democratic view, not the “progressive” view. A quote:

Even now, according to a new survey by the left-leaning group Data for Progress, the Democratic Party has a net negative rating of minus 29 percentage points among swing voters, worse than the minus 25 for the Republican Party. Democrats seeking to restore their party’s credibility with the electorate as a whole, but especially among those crucial swing voters, might consider adding three planks — on immigration, urban disorder and transgender issues — to the 2028 Democratic platform.

Why? Because it is these three issues that serve to reinforce the perception that Democrats are willing to sacrifice the interests of the working and middle classes in favor of special interest constituencies.

I am more than a little queasy making these suggestions, but I think the Democratic Party needs to perform a kind of brutal surgery on itself.

And here are the three issues and what Democrat has to believe about them if they’re to win (bolding is mine):

On immigration, I would suggest — with plenty of room for amendment — the following:

Democrats will firmly enforce laws on illegal immigration, including tough border enforcement and deportation of unauthorized immigrants who commit crimes.

Unauthorized immigrants with no criminal record who have been in this country for at least five years, along with Dreamers, should be offered green cards with a path toward citizenship. More recent arrivals should be deported.

On crime:

The Democratic Party supports aggressive prosecution of those accused of violent crime, those who engage in crowdsourced “teen takeovers” of stores, as well as all forms of child abuse.

The party backs restoration of bail requirements in the case of felonies, lifetime sentences for offenders convicted of multiple violent crimes, tough enforcement of child support laws and the death penalty if supported by the voters in a state and endorsed by a jury.

Transgender and gender dysphoria:

There are two sexes: men and women.

A man can claim an identify as a woman, and the same in reverse for a woman. They have every right to do so. Their claim should be respected and they should be protected from any form of discrimination for their choice.

Their claim does not, however, alter their biological sex.

Consequently, it is legitimate in areas such as sports where a transgender person would have a competitive advantage over non-trans people to bar such participation. Similarly, a claim to a sexual identity does not give a trans woman the right to incarceration in a woman’s prison.

Finally, the debate over gender affirming surgery and hormone treatments is fraught with contradictory assertions. For now, because there are credible scientific claims of irreversible harms, such treatments for those under 18 should be barred pending further study.

This is the best of the many pieces I’ve read about what Democrats need to do to start winning.

I agree with all these positions, save that I don’t think the death penalty is justifiable, nor do I think it will turn voters off so long as you advocate for the possibility of life sentences without parole.

The problem with Democrats is that they’ve been gaslighting us: pretending that crime is down, that something close to open borders is okay, and that trans rights always trump women’s rights—that biological men are identical to women in all respects.  Voters are not taken in by these positions, and all three of the critical issues Edsall mentions are ones that Democrats tell us are not problematic.

The next President does need to hew to something like Edsall’s program.  Edsall doesn’t mention Israel, which is the thorn on the rose, and it’s possible that no Democrat can be elected who doesn’t criticize Israel for overreacting in Lebanon and Gaza. Could I vote for someone like that? I suppose I could—if they have the other virtues.

Catuday felid trifecta: Semyon the Russian cat walks 2000 km over six years to get home; American woman shelters 600 cats in the UAE; cat steals the show in a ballet version of Romeo and Juliet; and lagniappe

July 4, 2026 • 9:00 am

From Murmansk.travel (and other places) we hear about a Russian cat named Semyon (a Siamese) who got lost on a trip to Moscow and eventually traveled on his own to Murmansk (about 2000 km or 1200 miles) in a six-year journey.  After he died they built him a monument (see below). The first bit seems to be translation from Russian:

Before the City Day in October 2013, a monument to the cat Semyon was unveiled on the embankment of the Semenovsky Lake. Its appearance is associated with a beautiful story based on real events.

In 1987, the Sinishin family was traveling home to Murmansk via Moscow. The Siamese cat Semyon traveled with the owners, but in the capital decided to take a walk on his own and jumped out of the car. They tried to find him, but the cat got lost among the lights of the big city. He returned six years later by himself! During his journey, the cat walked more than 2 thousand kilometers and showed up thin and tired on the doorstep of the apartment.

Bronze cat Semyon looks more solid than the original: it weighs almost 120 kg together with the bench, is 1.2 meters high, and 1.6 meters long. The sketch of the monument was drawn by the whole country, and was chosen by popular vote — the drawing of Nadezhda Vinyukova from Moscow won. It was embodied by the Ural masters-the sculpture workshop of Yuri Borisenkov and the foundry workshop “Dubrovin”.

In place of Semyon’s cat, a monument to Cthulhu, canned fish, cod, polar bear or penguin could appear. But it was purr who scored the most points in the popular vote. The money for its creation was collected by the whole city.

Semyon’s cat can be safely called the most popular and family monument of Murmansk and the first frivolous small architectural form in the city. It was included in the Top 15 of the kindest monuments in the world.

And here’s the monument, described by Grok thusly:

On October 2, 2013, a bronze monument to Cat Semyon was unveiled on the embankment of Semenovskoye Lake (Семёновское озеро) in Murmansk (near ul. Geroyev Severomortsev). The statue depicts a plump, content-looking cat sitting on a bench, holding a traveler’s bundle tied to a stick over his shoulder—symbolizing his long journey. It weighs about 120 kg and stands over 1 meter tall. An inscription reads “Кот Семён” (“Cat Semyon”). Visitors often sit beside him, rub his nose for good luck while making a wish, or simply admire the tribute to loyalty. The monument is a popular local attraction and part of guided tours.

Here’s a FB post about Semyon’s adventure and another picture of the statue. Sound up!

And the only YouTube video I can find: four minutes about Murmansk and Semyon. If you’re Russian, you’ll understand it. But you can still benefit from watching it.

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Here’s a story from The Washington Post about a real Cat Lady: an American in Dubai with a big heart. Click below to read it; it goes to a YouTube video that I’ve below:

The YouTube explanation:

Dina Taji has been giving stray cats in the United Arab Emirates a second chance at life at her shelter near Dubai. She said that she’s been able to rescue more than 3,000 cats over the years and built a shelter that now cares for about 600 rescues. She says help includes medical treatment, rehabilitation and long-term care.

When she started caring for strays, she had no car and would instead put them in a backpack and take them to the vet on bicycle. For her, seeing their recovery has made all of the bills worth it.

Dina is a fitness “influencer”, and you can read about her here. The cat part of her story is this:

. . .  there’s another side to me that I want to share—it’s something very close to my heart. I’m also an animal rescuer, especially for cats. Living in the UAE, I’ve seen so many cats abandoned, sick, or injured because of illegal breeders or just neglect. It started with me putting out food bowls for strays, but it quickly turned into rescuing, doing TNR (trap-neuter-return), and eventually creating a sanctuary with my best friend.

This year alone, we’ve rescued over 1,000 cats and now care for 450+ in a seven-bedroom villa. Half of them are recovering from illnesses like ringworm or parvo, and the rest are ready for adoption. We even built a special catio for FeLV+ cats—ones most people would give up on—so they can live happy lives tooI won’t lie—this journey is anything but easy. Caring for over 450 cats is incredibly expensive. Vet bills, food, litter, medicine—it all adds up quickly, and with no government support, we’ve had to take on cases that most would avoid because of the high costs. But this mission is bigger than just what we’re doing now.

We’ve learned so much from running our sanctuary—how to care for sick and injured cats, prevent cross-contamination, and create systems that actually work. Our dream is to take everything we’ve built, everything we’ve learned, and create a large, state-of-the-art shelter that can serve as a model for others. We want to inspire and equip people across the UAE to create similar sanctuaries, using what we’ve learned as a template to make a real, lasting difference.

This isn’t just about sustaining the cats we already have—it’s about solving the stray cat crisis in the UAE. We want to save them all and give every cat a chance at a better life. Every single bit of support we receive feeds directly into this vision. Every sign-up on my fitness app helps us get closer to building that future. It’s not just about getting fit—it’s about being part of something bigger, part of a mission that’s full of purpose and heart.
You can follow Dina’s mission on Instagram.  Here’s one more short FB video:

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When you see a cat walk onstage and is applauded, it’s almost always in Turkey, for the Turks love their cats, and there are many tame ferals wandering free. Here’s a feline doing some scene-stealing in a ballet production of Romeo and Juliet. The YouTube notes:

Everyone came to watch Romeo and Juliet. Nobody expected the real star to be a cat. During the final scene of a ballet performance in Turkey, a curious ginger cat wandered onto the stage and decided that Romeo’s hair was far more interesting than Shakespeare. The audience couldn’t stop laughing. Juliet tried to save Romeo. The cat had other plans. And by the end of the performance, the entire theater had fallen in love with the unexpected guest.

This is hilarious. I like it when Juliet tries to drag the cat away from Romeo, and later when the cat takes a bow at the end.

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Lagniappe: A friend recently sent me two scanned photos taken years ago with my late cat Teddy. He was a rescue cat who came in through the catflap of my prior digs. He’d lived on the streets of Chicago for several years as a stray, and after he came in, he never went out again. I thought he was a yellow cat, but it turned out that that was oil on his fur he acquired from huddling under cars. In reality, after several baths I realized he was pure white.  I loved him a lot:

h/t: Thomas, Marion, Anne

Michael Egnor responds to my critique of his free will-ism, and I discover a disturbing case of plagiarism

June 26, 2026 • 9:45 am

A few days ago I got a “pingback” from a site on the “Skeptic Society Magazine,” showing that someone had linked to my post that criticized ID advocate Michael Egnor’s video defense of libertarian free will. I went to the Skeptic Magazine site, and, as you’ll see, became puzzled. First of all, I’d never heard of the Skeptic Society. Here’s a bit from the Society about its mission and the magazine

Skeptic Society is an independent, secular online magazine dedicated to original ideas, free thought, and freedom of speech. We regularly publish articles on a variety of subjects, including politics, religion, book reviews, science, and technology. We welcome any material that is truly thought-provoking.

We are not affiliated with Skeptic Magazine or The Skeptics Society. This blog started as half joke and half serious notion about promoting scientific articles that are worth reading.

We don’t have membership, and we don’t discriminate no matter what political orientation you may have. If you have a valid point that is rational, we would love to hear about it.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you would like to publish here.

And then I read the pinbacked article in that magazine, which you can also read by clicking below. As you can see, the piece says that it’s “written by Jenni Sidey”. (I’ve archived the article here).

This article is apparently the first in a four-part defense of Egnor’s talk and a critique of my piece I posted on my website.  What struck me immediately, beyond its misleading arguments, was that it was written in the first person, as if it was produced by Egnor himself.  I goes on and on using the first-person “I” in the response. Here are a couple of excerpts showing that:

University of Chicago biologist Jerry Coyne has now posted, at his blog, Why Evolution Is True, a reply to a talk I gave in March at the 2026 Dallas Conference on Science and Faith. In the talk, presented by Discovery Institute’s Center for Science & Culture, I discussed the reality of free will, and criticized the coterie of scientists, specifically neuroscientist Sam Harris, primatologist Robert Sapolsky, and Coyne himself, who deny it.

. . .I offer four strong arguments to support that view:

  1. Everyone believes in free will. Even free will deniers do.
  2. Denial of free will is self-refuting.
  3. Determinism, which is the ideological basis for contemporary free will denial, has been disproven by modern physics.
  4. Neuroscience supports the inference that free will is real.

Those are Egnor’s arguments, not “Jenni Sidey’s”.   At any rate, the first part of “Sidey’s” four-part critique maintains that I don’t “walk my talk” when it comes to free will. “Sidey’s” accusation is that although I have argued that you can still have morality without libertarian you-could-have-done-otherwise free will, that view makes me a hypocrite, for nobody can be held “morally responsible” unless you have free will. From “Sidey’s” piece (indented):

First, morality presupposes free will. No person can be held morally accountable for an act he did not choose. It is self-evident that every sentient human being invokes morality. Even serial killers get offended if you steal from them. Everyone invokes moral law in everyday life.  Everyone has a moral sense, of varying degrees, so everyone at some real level believes in free will. What we believe is not merely what we say. What we believe is how we live our lives. Every free will denier, Jerry Coyne included, invokes moral law day in and day out. Morality presupposes freedom to choose right and wrong.

Apparently “Jenni Sidey” (you’ll see the reason for the quotes shortly) hasn’t read my own work on free will. I have never said that people are or should be deemed “morally responsible” for their good and bad acts. That would assume the ability to freely choose to be moral or immoral, but I am a determinist who rejects that kind of “choice.” What I have said, and which anybody who reads what I’ve written will know, is that you should be held responsible for what you do, but not morally responsible.  That is, you are responsible if you are the person who performed the act. That, to anyone with two neurons to rub together, is absolutely compatible with determinism.

You can also have a morality without determinism, for morality is just the social code that deems actions good (a consequentialist would say “having overall good consequences for society”) or bad.  In my view, you are “immoral” if you kill someone without a good reason like self-defense.  That means you’re doing something that society deems not only bad but worthy of punishment, but you don’t have to have made a libertarian decision to kill or not to kill.  And society enforces its “morality” through punishment and reward, both of which can change people’s behavior, whether they be the person at issue issue or onlookers.

Changed behavior is also perfectly compatible with determinism: if you’re rewarded for good behavior or punished for bad—or see someone else undergo these consequences—you will be more likely to do good things and less likely to do bad things.  I’m sure that “Jenni Sidey” would agree that rewarding dogs for good behavior or punishing them for bad behavior will, in the future, change their behavior; and yet I don’t think that “Sidey”, being religious (see below), would say that dogs have free will.

I explain this again because “Sidey” attacks me for going after people who do bad things and praising people for doing good things, even though I deny free will. That, “Sidey” thinks, is me not “walking the talk.”  “Jenni” gives an example:

In Coyne’s case, there is an element of self-contradiction. Some years ago, he authored a blog post lamenting the moral impropriety of a guy who dented his car in a parking lot and drove off. If Coyne is right that there is no free will and we are meat machines, then all that happened is that a meat machine in a car machine collided with a parked car machine owned by a subsequently unhappy meat machine. If free will isn’t real, the guy who hit Coyne’s car and drove off is no more morally culpable than the car he was driving. Coyne, in his justified moral indignation at the other driver’s moral lapse, affirms his own belief in free will, at least free will in parking lots.

But my chastising someone for hitting my car does not mean I’ve sneakily “affirmed free will ,” nor did I say it at the time. If you read my post, I say nothing about free will or morality. Instead, I talk about selfish and altruistic behaviors, though I could have used “immoral” in the way I construe above. It makes no difference, for what I call “selfish”, “altruistic” or “immoral” has nothing to do with libertarian free will. “Sidey” continues:

Second, in some sense Coyne is right that I am making an argumentum ad populum. But it is actually better understood as an argumentum ad omnes — I’m arguing that everyone believes in free will, including Coyne. I’m saying that Coyne doesn’t walk his talk. On the one hand, he writes sophistry denying free will and on the other hand, he rails at the moral reprobate who dented his fender. In general, his blog is full of moral proclamations — Coyne is a moralizing scold on everything you can imagine. Of course, the fact that Coyne doesn’t really believe his own arguments against free will doesn’t prove that the arguments are wrong. But, as Carl Sagan noted, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Coyne’s claim that every human being, including Coyne himself, is always wrong about the experience of free will is a very extraordinary claim, for which Coyne offers no ordinary, let alone extraordinary, evidence. My suggestion to Coyne is: if you want to be taken seriously in your denial of free will, stop invoking morality. Walk your talk.

Note the “I” in the first sentence, which seems to come not from a “Jenni Sidey” but from Egnor himself.  Once again, if I, Jerry, criticize or praise someone, that doesn’t mean I believe in libertarian free will. I may not have been able to do something other than criticize or praise, but merely deeming something good or bad is not a “choice” I made freely. I had no such choice.  I am constituted so as to defend actions I think are salubrious and damn those that I deem harmful.  I do not understand why “Sidey” doesn’t get this—it’s not rocket science.

Anyway, you have probably concluded that “Jenni Sidey” is none other than Michael Egnor himself, perhaps writing under a pseudonym. And you’d be partly right: all the words in that article do indeed come from Egnor, as I found out when I got a second pingback from the Discovery Institute site Mind Matters—this time to a piece identical to “Sidey’s” at the Skeptic Society Magazine site, but written by Egnor himself (click screenshot to read:

So yes, Egnor did write the talk at the Skeptic Society Magazine site.  But who, then, is Jenni Sidey? Is she a pseudonym for Egnor himself, writing at Skeptic Society Magazine, or was the article stolen by Skeptic Magazine and given another title?

It turns out it’s the second possibility.  First, there is no record on the Internet of a Jenni Sidey, though there is a Canadian astronaut named Jenni Sidey-Gibbons, but this is clearly not the person who wrote the Skeptic Magazine article—and several other articles in the magazine on unrelated topics, so it’s clear that the author is not a real person, much less the Canadian astronaut. But is it a pseudonym for Egnor?

I don’t think so. What seems to be the case is that Skeptic Society Magazine is simply plagiarizing articles from other places and changing the author to a nonexistent “Jenni Sidey.” That is outright plagiarism: attributing Egnor’s words to someone else (“written by Jenni Sidey”). That’s why I archived the article as well as the one below, because it’s proof that Skeptic Society Magazine is engaged in wholesale plagiarism.

You can see the plagiarism simply by Googling sentences from Jenni Sidey’s articles and seeing where they came from.  Here’s another article that was plagiarized; it came from the site Artnews.com and you can read it by clicking on the link below:

Here are the first two paragraphs of Vollaard’s article:

Weaving may be the world’s oldest way of reproducing information—and computing is poised to become its final one. Across millennia, surprising similarities persist: both media operate on binary logic (over/under, on/off), are intrinsically based on counting, and are characterized by patterns that emerge structurally, not on the surface. In fact, the first automated machine, the Jacquard machine, was a loom, and weaving was a favorite metaphor employed by Ada Lovelace while she was working with early computers and algorithms. Even language betrays this lineage: etymologically, before “text” became “textual,” it was “textile.”

Diné weaver Marilou Schultz has been probing the harmonies and dissonances between these technologies since the 1960s. Her first retrospective opens this week at the Hessel Museum of Art at Bard College in upstate New York, where curator Candice Hopkins has brought together some 55 works, threading them together with contextual archival materials. The show highlights Schultz’s range as a weaver, from her command of traditional styles to her penchant for formal experimentation, and hones in on one subject that has preoccupied her practice over the last thirty years: computer chips.

And it’s easy to find that Lua Vollaard is a real person. But Jenni Sidey, on the Skeptic Society Magazine site, has plagiarized Vollaard’s piece, too. Click below to see the plagiarism, which I’ve archived here. Note that “Sidey” has changed the title of the article, but the content is the same:


“Sidey’s” first two paragarphs are identical to those of Vollaard’s piece. This is big-time plagiarism, attributing Vollaard’s words to someone else.

Weaving may be the world’s oldest way of reproducing information—and computing is poised to become its final one. Across millennia, surprising similarities persist: both media operate on binary logic (over/under, on/off), are intrinsically based on counting, and are characterized by patterns that emerge structurally, not on the surface. In fact, the first automated machine, the Jacquard machine, was a loom, and weaving was a favorite metaphor employed by Ada Lovelace while she was working with early computers and algorithms. Even language betrays this lineage: etymologically, before “text” became “textual,” it was “textile.”

Diné weaver Marilou Schultz has been probing the harmonies and dissonances between these technologies since the 1960s. Her first retrospective opens this week at the Hessel Museum of Art at Bard College in upstate New York, where curator Candice Hopkins has brought together some 55 works, threading them together with contextual archival materials. The show highlights Schultz’s range as a weaver, from her command of traditional styles to her penchant for formal experimentation, and hones in on one subject that has preoccupied her practice over the last thirty years: computer chips.

Note again the authorship: “written by Jenni Sidey.”

What can we conclude? First, that Egnor is not writing at a different place using a pseudonym.  Second, that “Jenni Sidey” is a pseudonym—for someone who re-publishes articles stolen from other places, and attributing them to an author at Skeptic Society Magazine. (I haven’t checked “Jenni’s” other articles, but you can bet that they are also stolen from elsewhere and given Jenni’s name as an author.)

The upshot:  Skeptic Society Magazine is engaged in wholesale plagiarism. Nowhere does it say that it’s republishing articles from other sites and giving them a new author.  Real authors, like Egnor and Vollaard, should go after the magazine for stealing their words. Readers might want to investigate the website and see if other authors’ words are being stolen.

And of course this form of plagiarism is IMMORAL, whether or not you believe in libertarian free will.  The magazine should first admit what it did, and then vanish.