A latter-day Hitchens decries the “No true Muslim” fallacy

February 9, 2015 • 1:30 pm

I swear—Salon is driving me nuts. I swore off reading it after it went the route of routinely attacking (and mischaracterizing) the arguments of “New Atheists” like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. But then someone comes along and writes a cogent Salon piece exposing the delusions and harms of religion and stating forthrightly that there’s no reason to believe in God.  So I’m forced to read Salon again.

I would have thought that a website might espouse a unified point of view. Sure, it should give contrasting viewpoints, but one looks for some overall theme to a paper or website, at least in its editorial content. We all know that the New York Times is leftish, though it does publish conservative columnists like Ross Douthat. But Salon seems to have no viewpoint: it publishes wildly disparate pieces. I doubt it does so to promote a “balanced” view—more likely it’s done to attract as many clicks as possible. For every person who wants to read a piece attacking Islam, there are several more who want to read a piece praising Reza Aslan. All bases covered.

But I digress, for I want to call your attention to a new piece by Jeffrey Tayler, who is a contributing editor at The Atlantic. He’s written some good pieces espousing nonbelief before, and I’ve highlighted them on this site (you can find one example here). His piece published yesterday, “It’s time to fight religion: Toxic drivel, useful media idiots, and the real story about faith and violence,” is sufficiently strident to have been written by Hitchens, and makes many of the same points that Hitch did when he began attacking faith. But amidst the cowardice of those who won’t show the Charlie Hebdo cartoons, of those loathsome apologists who say that terrorists and their movements like ISIS aren’t “true Islam,” and even of those atheists who give Islam a pass because, after all, most of its adherents are people of color, we have the strong voice of Tayler exposing the nonsense of the “no true Muslim” fallacy.

Just a few excerpts. First Taylor gives the roll call of cowards and apologists (my emphasis):

Serial Islam-apologist Reza Aslan appeared on Charlie Rose‘s show and admitted that the Quran has “of course” served as a “source of violence” for terrorists, but then resorted to his usual tiresome Derrida-esque double-talk when it came to discussing his religion’s material role in the killings. “We bring our own values and norms to our scriptures; we don’t extract them from our scriptures.”

The New York Times’ Nicholas Kristof, an unwitting recidivist “useful idiot” for Islamism, cautioned us to avoid “religious profiling” and contended that “The great divide is not between faiths. Rather it is between terrorists and moderates, between those who are tolerant and those who ‘otherize.’” He is apparently unaware of Islamic traditions dividing the world into Dar al-Islam (the Abode of Islam, or Muslim regions) and Dar al-Harb (the Abode of War, where Muslims must strive against, and even do battle with, infidels, in order to convert them.

. . . Susan Milligan, writing in U.S. News and World Report, opined that news outlets should feel no pressure to publish the Charlie Hebdo cartoons, since “This isn’t about religion or respect, and it insults every peace-loving practicing Muslim to suggest otherwise.” Wow. Has she converted to Islam? What gives her the right to speak for “every peace-loving practicing Muslim?”

There are other examples, but foulest of all were the excretions emanating from James Zogby, president and founder of the Arab American Institute. I’ll cite in full the opening paragraph of his Huffington Post op-ed:

“The perpetrators of the horror at Charlie Hebdo were not devout Muslims outraged by insults directed at their faith. They were not motivated by religious piety, nor did they seek to strike a blow at ‘freedom of expression.’ Rather they were crude political actors who planned an act of terror — seeking to create the greatest possible impact. They were murderers, plain and simple.”

Every sentence here, with the partial exception of the last, is so transparently counterfactual that no refutation is warranted.

Indeed. I get almost physically ill when I see someone like Aslan or Karen Armstrong appear onscreen, for they’ve built their careers on deception, deliberate or not. I know that what comes out of their mouths will be one distortion after another. It’s the same way I felt about Nixon during Watergate.

Tayler’s article is long, and ultimately calls for us to recognize religiously-motivated terrorism as what it is, for that’s the first step in figuring out how to deal with it. The U.S., as witnessed by Obama’s congenital allergy to using the words “terrorism” and “Islam” in the same sentence (except to say stuff like “ISIS is not true Islam”), is party to this fallacy, for the national policy appears to hinge on the unevidenced belief that if we say that Islamic terrorism is motivated by Islam, we may lose our buddies in the Middle East and a lot of oil as well. We’ve become the mahout of The Elephant in the Room.

Tayler is having none of it, and passages of his superb essay are strongly redolent of the late Hitchens. Here are but two:

We are accustomed to reflexively deferring to “men of the cloth,” be they rabbis and priests or pastors and imams. In this we err, and err gravely. Those whose profession it is to spread misogynistic morals, debilitating sexual guilt, a hocus-pocus cosmogony, and tales of an enticing afterlife for which far too many are willing to die or kill, deserve the exact same “respect” we accord to shamans and sorcerers, alchemists and quacksalvers. Out of misguided notions of “tolerance,” we avert our critical gaze from the blatant absurdities — parting seas, spontaneously igniting shrubbery, foodstuffs raining from the sky, virgin parturitions, garrulous slithering reptiles, airborne ungulates — proliferating throughout their “holy books.” We suffer, in the age of space travel, quantum theory and DNA decoding, the ridiculous superstitious notion of “holy books.” And we countenance the nonsense term “Islamophobia,” banishing those who forthrightly voice their disagreements with the seventh-century faith to the land of bigots and racists; indeed, the portmanteau vogue word’s second component connotes something just short of mental illness.

Remember Hitchens talking about all the stuff you could get away with in the U.S. if you’d just put on a dog collar and get yourself called “Reverend”?  Well, we—or rather Americans as a group—can’t hear this kind of stuff often enough. We should all refuse to recognize any special expertise of clerics in anything other than what other clerics say or the tenets of their faith.

Finally, Tayler makes a point that, while obvious enough, is one I hadn’t realized before (my emphasis):

Worse still is the offense that denying faith’s role in atrocities inflicts on commonsense. No one doubts people when they say their religion inspires them to attend mosque or church, make charitable donations, volunteer in hospitals or serve in orphanages. We should take them at their word when they name it, as did the Charlie Hebdo assassins, as  the mainspring for their lethal acts of violence. We should not toss aside Ockham’s razor and concoct additional factors that supposedly commandeered their behavior. The Charlie Hebdo killers may have come from poor Parisian banlieues, they may have experienced racial discrimination, and they may have even been stung by disdain from “the dominant secular French culture,” yet they murdered not shouting about any of these things, but about “avenging the Prophet Muhammad.” They murdered for Islam.

(Be sure to have a look at the link given by Tayler that cites many passages from the Qur’an and Hadith that urge violent jihad.)

I’m familiar with a related argument: if you give God credit for saving lives during tornadoes and similar disasters (the “miracles” often cited by survivors), why not blame Him for the people who died? That same argument can be applied to religion as a whole: if you praise faith for motivating people to do good things (and I believe it sometimes does), then how can you refuse to blame it for motivating people to do bad things? Hitchens may well have made that point, but it’s time for us to grasp it and stick it into the butts of those who, like Aslan, Armstrong, and Greenwald, tell us that religion can do great and good things but can do no wrong.

h/t: Gregory

Saudi historian tells us why Saudi women shouldn’t drive, and that women who do don’t care about being raped

February 9, 2015 • 11:30 am

This would be humorous if it weren’t the law in Saudi Arabia—where women aren’t allowed to drive—or if a Ph.D. didn’t go on television and argue seriously that women who drive in other countries “don’t care if they are raped by the roadside.” WHAT?

The details:

During a TV show, Saudi historian Saleh Al-Saadoon said that women should not be allowed to drive on the grounds that they might get raped if their car broke down on the roadside. “[Western women] don’t care if they are raped on the roadside, but we do”, he said on the January 11, 2015 show on the Saudi Rotana Khalijiyya TV.

As you’ll see, the interviewer goes after Al-Sadoon like a dog at a bone, and good for her. (I’m surprised that she’s not veiled, for I thought that was the rule for Saudi women in public). At least Al-Saadoon admits that this is a religious issue, showing that for people like him, and presumably many Saudi men, obeying the presumed dictates of Islam overrides women’s freedom.

And get what his solution is to the interviewer’s suggestion that women might still be raped by the men who drive them around. Al-Saadoon suggests, in all seriouslness, that Saudi women might be driven by foreign female chauffeurs! The man is a fricking genius, for he’s unwittingly coopted the Jewish idea of the shabbos goy, the non-Jew hired to do the work prohibited for Jews on the Sabbath! (The interviewer, peace be upon her, can’t stifle her laughter at this nonsense.)

h/t: Malgorzata

Steven Weinberg’s new book on the history of science (with excerpts)

February 9, 2015 • 10:25 am

It’s a great pity that Steven Weinberg’s new book on the history of science, To Explain the World: The Discovery of Modern Science, is coming out too late to be included in my own book, in which I discuss the apologists’ contention that science was an outgrowth of medieval Christianity. Weinberg’s book, whose existence I discovered through a Facebook post by physicist Sean Carroll, will be released Feb. 17 by HarperCollins.

You probably know that Weinberg is a Nobel Laureate, having received the Big Prize in 1979 along with Sheldon Glashow and Abdus Salam for unifying the weak and electromagnetic forces—a step forward in physics’ drive to unify all four forces. And I knew he had a pretty deep knowledge of the history of science, for he’s written about it in his New York Review of Books articles. But I had no idea he was producing a book.

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Intrigued, I wrote Steve asking if he had any more information for my readers, and specifically asked two things: how he came to write the book, and why he thought that modern science seemed to derive largely from Europe rather than elsewhere. I added that I had been reading a lot of apologists who asserted that science was the product of Christianity in the Middle Ages. Weinberg responded by sending me two excerpts from the book that, he thought, would answer my questions. These excerpts are not on the Amazon site, nor anywhere else I can find, but here they are:

PREFACE

I am a physicist, not a historian, but over the years I have increasingly become fascinated by the history of science.  It is an extraordinary story, one of the most interesting in human history. It is also a story in which scientists like myself have a personal stake. Today’s research can be aided and illuminated by a knowledge of its past, and for some scientists knowledge of the history of science helps to motivate present work.  We hope that our research may turn out to be a part, however small, of the grand historical tradition of natural science.

Where my own past writing has touched on history, it has been mostly the modern history of physics and astronomy, roughly from the late nineteenth century to the present.  Although in this era we have learned many new things, the goals and standards of physical science have not materially changed.  If physicists of 1900 were somehow taught today’s Standard Model of cosmology or of elementary particle physics, they would have found much to amaze them, but the idea of seeking mathematically-formulated and experimentally-validated impersonal principles that explain a wide variety of phenomena would have seemed quite familiar.

A while ago I decided that I needed to dig deeper, to learn more about an earlier era in the history of science, when the goals and standards of science had not yet taken their present shape.  As is natural for an academic, when I want to learn about something, I volunteer to teach a course on the subject. Over the past decade I have from time to time taught undergraduate courses on the history of physics and astronomy at the University of Texas, to students who had no special background in science, mathematics, or history.  This book grew out of the lecture notes for those courses.

But as this book has developed, perhaps I have been able to offer something that goes a little beyond a simple narrative: It is the perspective of a modern working scientist on the science of the past.  I have taken this opportunity to explain my views about the nature of physical science, and about its continued tangled relations with religion, technology, philosophy, mathematics, and aesthetics.

Before history there was science, of a sort. At any moment nature presents us with a variety of puzzling phenomena: fire, thunderstorms, plagues, planetary motion, light, tides, and so on.  Observation of the world led to useful generalizations: fires are hot, thunder presages rain; tides are highest when the Moon is full or new; etc. These became part of the common sense of mankind.  But here and there, some people wanted more than just a collection of facts. They wanted to explain the world.

It was not easy. It is not only that our predecessors did not know what we know about the world — more important, they did not have anything like our ideas of what there was to know about the world, and how to learn it.  Again and again in preparing the lectures for my course I have been impressed with how different the work of science in past centuries was from the science of my own times.  As the much quoted lines of a novel of L.P. Hartley put it, “The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.” I hope that in this book I have been able to give the reader not only an idea of what happened in the history of the exact sciences, but also a sense of how hard it has all been.

So this book is not solely about how we came to learn various things about the world.  That is naturally a concern of any history of science.  My focus in this book is a little different — it is how we came to learn how to learn about the world.

I am not unaware that the word “explain” in the title of this book raises problems for philosophers of science.  They have pointed out the difficulty in giving a precise distinction between explanation and description.  (I will have a little to say about this in Chapter 8.)  But this is a work on the history rather than the philosophy of science.  By explanation I mean something imprecise, the same as is meant in ordinary life, when we try to explain why a horse has won a race or why an airplane has crashed.

The word “discovery” in the subtitle is also problematic. I had thought of using The Invention of Modern Science as a subtitle.   After all, science could hardly exist without human beings to practice it.  I chose “Discovery” instead of “Invention” to suggest that science is the way it is not so much because of various adventitious historic acts of invention, but because of the way nature is.  With all its imperfections, modern science is a technique that is sufficiently well tuned to nature so that it works — it is a practice that allows us to learn reliable things about the world.  In this sense, it is a technique that was waiting for people to discover it.

Thus one can talk about the discovery of science in the way that a historian can talk about the discovery of agriculture.  With all its variety and imperfections, agriculture is the way it is because its practices are sufficiently well tuned to the realities of biology so that it works — it allows us to grow food. I also wanted with this title to distance myself from the few remaining social constructivists: those sociologists, philosophers, and historians who try to explain not only the process but even the results of science as products of a particular cultural milieu.

The science in the subtitle of this book is modern science, a technique that goes beyond casual observation, and is now practiced throughout the world by professionals who call themselves scientists.  Among the branches of science, this book will emphasize physics and astronomy.  It was in physics, especially as applied to astronomy, that science first took a modern form.  Of course there are limits to the extent to which sciences like biology, whose principles depend so much on historical accidents, can or should be modeled on physics.  Nevertheless, there is a sense in which the development of scientific biology as well as chemistry in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries followed the model of the revolution in physics of the seventeenth century.

Science is now international, perhaps the most international aspect of our civilization, but the discovery of modern science happened in what may loosely be called the West.  Modern science learned its methods from research done in Europe in the scientific revolution, which in turn evolved from work done in Europe and in Arab countries in the Middle Ages, and ultimately from the precocious science of the Greeks.  The West borrowed much scientific knowledge from elsewhere — geometry from Egypt, astronomical data from Babylon, the techniques of arithmetic from Babylon and India, the magnetic compass from China, and so on — but as far as I know it did not import the methods of modern science.  So this book will emphasize the West (including medieval Islam) in just the way that was deplored by Oswald Spengler and Arnold Toynbee: I will have little to say about science outside the West, and nothing at all to say about the interesting but entirely isolated progress made in pre-Columbian America.

In telling this story, I will be coming close to the dangerous ground that is most carefully avoided by contemporary historians, of judging the past by the standards of the present.  This is an irreverent history; I am not unwilling to criticize the methods and theories of the past from a modern viewpoint.  I have even taken some pleasure in uncovering a few errors made by scientific heroes that I have not seen mentioned by historians.

A historian who devotes years to study the works of some Great Man of the past may come to exaggerate what their hero has accomplished.  I have seen this in particular in works on Plato, Aristotle, Avicenna, Grosseteste and Descartes. But it is not my purpose here to accuse some past natural philosophers of stupidity.  Rather, by showing how far these very intelligent individuals were from our present conception of science, I want to show how difficult was the discovery of modern science, how far from obvious are its practices and standards.  This also serves as a warning, that science may not yet be in its final form.   At several points in this book I suggest that, as great as is the progress that has been made in the methods of science, we may today be repeating some of the errors of the past.

Some historians of science make a shibboleth of not referring to present scientific knowledge in studying the science of the past. I will instead make a point of using present knowledge to clarify past science.  For instance, though it might be an interesting intellectual exercise to try to understand how the Hellenistic astronomers Apollonius and Hipparchus developed the theory that the planets go around the Earth on looping epicyclic orbits by using only the data that was available to them, this is impossible, for much of the data they used is lost.  But we do know that in ancient times the Earth and planets went around the Sun on nearly circular orbits, just as they do today, and by using this knowledge we will be able to understand how the data available to ancient astronomers could have suggested to them their theory of epicycles.  In any case, how can anyone today, reading about ancient astronomy, forget our present knowledge of what actually goes around what in the solar system?

For readers who want to understand in greater detail how the work of past scientists fits in with what actually exists in nature, there are “technical notes” at the back of the book. It is not necessary to read these notes to follow the book’s main text, but some readers may learn a few odd bits of physics and astronomy from these notes, as I did in preparing them.

* * * * * **

Science is not now what it was at its start.  Its results are impersonal.  Inspiration and aesthetic judgment are important in the development of scientific theories, but the verification of these theories relies finally on impartial experimental tests of their predictions.  Though mathematics is used in the formulation of physical theories and in working out their consequences, science is not a branch of mathematics, and scientific theories cannot be deduced by purely mathematical reasoning.  Science and technology benefit each other, but at its most fundamental level science is not undertaken for any practical reason.  Though science has nothing to say one way or the other about the existence of God or the afterlife, its goal is to find explanations of natural phenomena that are purely naturalistic.  Science is cumulative; each new theory incorporates successful earlier theories as approximations, and even explains why these approximations work, when they do work.

None of this was obvious to the scientists of the ancient world or the Middle Ages, and it was learned only with great difficulty in the scientific revolution of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.  Nothing like modern science was a goal from the beginning.  So how then did we get to the scientific revolution, and beyond it to where we are now?  That is what we must try to learn as we explore the discovery of modern science.

The book is only $21 in hardcover, or $16 on Kindle. As you can see, Weinberg is a lucid and entertaining writer, and I’d recommend this book without having seen it. In the meantime, read his article “A designer universe?” from the 1999 New York Review of Books, which takes up the question of whether the Universe gives evidence for a god. Since Weinberg is an uncompromising atheist, you can guess the answer.

Alabama judge defies federal order, instructs state not to issue licenses for gay marriage

February 9, 2015 • 9:03 am

Oh Jebus (sorry, Dr. Craig!), Alabama continues to show itself as a retrograde state with a Bronze Age morality. According to the New York Times, Alabama’s Chief Justice (i.e., of the state supreme court) has ordered that state employees ignore the ruling of a Federal District Court that state licenses for gay marriage would be issued starting this morning.

Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, a Republican (of course), is famous for having refused to remove a monument to the Ten Commandments from his courthouse lawn. He was removed from office for that act of defiance, but was then re-elected as Chief Justice.   From the Times:

“Effective immediately, no probate judge of the State of Alabama nor any agent or employee of any Alabama probate judge shall issue or recognize a marriage license that is inconsistent” with the Alabama Constitution or state law, the chief justice wrote in his order.

The order, coming just hours before the January decisions of United States District Court Judge Callie V. S. Granade were scheduled to take effect, was almost certainly going to thrust this state into legal turmoil. It was not immediately clear how the state’s 68 probate judges, who, like Chief Justice Moore, are popularly elected, would respond to the order.

. . . by Sunday night, the chief justice, faced with the prospect of many judges allowing same-sex marriages to move forward, acted, in part, “to ensure the orderly administration of justice within the State of Alabama.”

Reached by telephone late Sunday night, Ben Cooper, chairman of the board of the gay rights group Equality Alabama, said that same-sex couples expected to be issued marriage licenses Monday morning.

“We are continuing to move forward tomorrow,” Mr. Cooper said. “If we walk in and licenses are refused, if they do not comply with the federal order, then these probate judges could be personally liable,” said Mr. Cooper, who added that he expected legal actions to be filed against the individual probate judges if they do not issue the licenses.

Already several probate officers, who issue the licenses, have said that they would not issue them to gay couples regardless, or to any couples. This, of course, comes out of the bedrock Christianity that permeates the state.

Where we are with this is right back to the days of George Wallace, the Alabama governor who refused federal orders to integrate the University of Alabama, even standing in the school doors to prevent black students from entering. Except this time it’s not for blacks, but for gays.

And, like Wallace’s act of bigotry, this one won’t stand. Federal court decisions take precedence over those of state courts, and everyone knows that. Unless the Supreme Court of the U.S. overrules Granade (and I see that as unlikely), Alabama will have to bite the bullet and allow gay couples to get married.  Judge Moore knows this, too, so why his dumb order? I suspect it’s because, like the Ten Commandments affair, it’s a way to build popularity with his constituents, for in Alabama all Supreme Court justices, including the Chief Justice, are elected. And Alabama voters, by and large, aren’t exactly down with Enlightenment values.

Within a decade, gay marriage will be legal everywhere in my country, and the U.S. Supreme Court—with the exception, perhaps, of Scalia and Thomas—will have affirmed that. Roy Moore and his supporters are bucking the tide of both morality and history, and in the end they’ll go down beside George Wallace as the death rattle of southern bigotry.

Gorgeous owl photos: can you name the species?

February 9, 2015 • 8:15 am

Owls, of course, are Honorary Cats™, as they are the most feline of birds. The latest issue of Audubon magazine has a nice article highlighting the owl pictures of photographer Brad Wilson (you must go to his webpage and see his other animal photos!). From the article:

Wilson is an expert at point-blank portraits. His series “Affinity” features 65 species, including a white rhino, a white tiger, an Arctic fox, and an Egyptian Vulture. But owls were the most compelling and challenging subjects, he says. It takes years of building mutual trust before an owl will accept physical contact from a single person, says Wilson, and “owls don’t extend that privilege to other humans.”

Wilson wanted his images to accentuate the nobility and independence of each captive bird, minimizing its dependence on its caretaker. Many had wing injuries, for example, which he concealed in his pictures. The owls’ human perches likewise hid themselves, contorting their bodies to stay out of the frame. It was a gesture to the birds, a way of saying that although their wild days are behind them, they still have their dignity.

Here are some of Wilson’s owl photos. How many can you identify? After you try (I got two), go over to the Audubon page and read about each owl.

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This owl looks like a fox!

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This owl is adorable:

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This owl is scary:

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This owl is another cute one:

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And this is the most striking owl of all:

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Monday Deepakity

February 9, 2015 • 7:10 am

It’s always a good week when it starts with Deepak trying to show his credibility as a scientist. He tw**ted this at me yesterday (I got informed by email), with the obvious message that REAL SCIENTISTS take him seriously. Or, perhaps this is a tacit admission on his part that HIV causes AIDS after all. . .

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I wonder two things. Why on earth would Montagnier let himself be interviewed by Chopra? (One possibility: Orac has described some of Montagnier’s dabblings in woo after he got the Big Prize.)

And I wonder if the French scientist knows that Chopra has waffled about whether he sees HIV as the cause of AIDS? (Chopra has now admitted it, but hasn’t said that he erred previously, nor clarified the role of “right thinking” in getting AIDS.)

Universe to Chopra: talking to a good scientist doesn’t make you one, too.

New improved Lego Beagle

February 9, 2015 • 6:41 am

I’m informed by Luis Pena, who’s trying to get Lego to adopt an HMS Beagle kit, complete with Darwin, Fitzroy, and other stuff, that he has taken my suggestion and added an opened-up cabin showing Darwin arranging his specimens. (There was previously only an open-up version of the splenetic Fitzroy’s cabin.)

Here’s the new addition from Pena’s Flickr page (sadly, Darwin would not have been examining a living finch as he shot stuff, but a dead bird might traumatize the kids!):

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I was sad to hear that we boosted the votes only by 300 yesterday, and they need 10,000 to get Lego to even consider marketing the kit (they’re at 1399 now and have a year for the remaining 8600 votes).

Now you know I don’t ask you folks for much, so I beseech thee that if you want to spread the message of evolution to the children, get over to Pena’s page and vote for the Beagle. It takes only two minutes to register, and there are no strings.  (Just hit the blue “support” button at the upper right.)

 

Monday: Hili dialogue (plus bonus video)

February 9, 2015 • 5:07 am

It’s Monday again, and that means it’s the week of Darwin Day, the anniversary of the day he was born, which happens to be this Thursday. All over the U.S., evolutionists will fan out to give lectures celebrating the marvel that is evolution. (I’ll be at Southern Mississippi University, talking on Friday). You can find an international list of events, which take place over the week, at this site.

Meanwhile in Dobrzyn, Hili seems badly confused, as she should be looking for non-cryptic mice. . .

A: What are you hunting?
Hili: White mice.
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In Polish:
Ja: Na co polujesz?
Hili: Na białe myszki.

And, as lagniappe, here’s a very short video I took in the fall of 2013 of Hili chasing her tail. She was much slimmer then!: