Read the Roolz

May 21, 2014 • 4:51 am

Traffic has continued to increase on this site—we’re up to between 25,000 and 30,000 views per day—but with that good news comes the bad. The influx of new commenters is, to my mind, changing the tone of this site. Perhaps used to the impoliteness and insults pervasive on other sites, some new commenters are engaging in Roolz violations.

For all new commenters, click on “Da Roolz!” on the sidebar to see what we expect when  you comment here. And follow those guidelines.

In particular, we’ve seen a lot of these violations lately:

1. People trying to dominate a thread with their own concerns. Certain subjects bring out people who want to comment over and over again or engage in one-on-ones with other commenters. As I’ve said, if your comments constitute more than 10% of a thread, you’re probably commenting too much. Have your say, and if you get into an extended one-on-one argument with someone else (these are nearly always futile at changing people’s minds), take it to private email.

2. Do not tell me what to post about or what not to write about. This will get you banned very quickly. I am not, of course, saying that readers shouldn’t send me items they think would interest all of us, for I welcome that. What I really mean is that readers shouldn’t tell me stuff like “more biology, fewer cats”, or, as happened on a recent thread, tell me that I really shouldn’t have posted about the topic at hand.

3.  Please try not to hijack threads. There has been a lot of this lately, in which readers will turn a discussion to their private concerns, which often have little to do with the topic at hand. Sometimes I let this go, as it can be interesting and productive, but it sometimes comes perilously close to trolling.

5. Do not insult other commenters or your host. When I put up a serious post, discuss the issues politely and not the personalities of those you disagree with. For example, I don’t mind at all if readers take issue with what I say, but if they add gratuitous insults or slurs (e.g. a suggestion that I’m “disingenuous”), they’re likely to be removed or given a time-out. Treat this website as if it is my living room, which, in an intellectual sense, it is. And that means not micturating on my carpet.

If you want to engage in invective and name-calling, there are plenty of other secularist sites where you can do that; but you won’t do it here. As Sam the Lion said in “The Last Picture Show,”

You boys can get on out of here, I don’t want to have no more to do with you. . . I’ve been around that trashy behavior all my life, I’m gettin’ tired of puttin’ up with it. Now you can stay out of this pool hall, out of my cafe, and my picture show too – I don’t want no more of your business.

It’s much less important to me to have high traffic on this site than to have civility, mutual respect for our common humanity, and a sense of community. And, of course, substantive and useful discussion—as well as humor.

Again, if you’re new here, or haven’t looked at the guidelines lately, read “Da Roolz!

Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ demons

May 21, 2014 • 4:17 am

The Jesus and Mo artist notes that “This isn’t satire, it’s reportage” And indeed it is:

There’s also a note that you can contribute to the artist via Patreon, and I’d urge you to consider that (see below). The artist actually accomplishes something (remember all the Jesus and Mo kerfuffles in England?), in contrast to some other secularists who use Patreon as sort of a “begging bowl,” providing minimal returns.

I’m donating. Isn’t it worth at least a dollar a month to have stuff like this?

I’d be happy as hell if a lot of the readers here made a monthly donation, even the minimal one, so that the artist can have a reliable source of income. There were 5 donors this morning, now there are 22. Let’s try to get a lot more. Remember, you can donate as little as $12 per year. That’s just three lattes at St*rb*cks.

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ANNOUNCEMENT
Jesus & Mo now has a Patreon account, which allows regular readers to support its continued production by pledging a small amount each month. It’s entirely voluntary, and can be cancelled at any time. There is also a system of incremental rewards, depending on how much you pledge.

Jesus & Mo has been available free since 2005, and will always be free. But now, if you enjoy it and you think that each strip is worth, say, 25 cents’ worth of pleasure to you, you can pledge a dollar a month and have the satisfaction of knowing you’re playing a part in keeping this little corner of blasphemous satire active in the world. If you think it’s worth more than that, you’ll get a bit more. Here – have a look.

h/t: Linda Grilli

Readers’ wildlife photos

May 21, 2014 • 3:26 am

by Matthew Cobb

Jonathan Eisen, a professor at the University of California at Davis, posted these lovely little burrowing owls (Athene cunicularia) on his Tw*tter feed (@phylogenomics) a few minutes after taking them.

This first one, perched in a tree, looks pretty cross…

This one is by its burrow. Lovely markings, and such an erect stance – maybe it has spied something in the undergrowth.

Wednesday: Hili dialogue

May 21, 2014 • 3:17 am

The difficult attempt at d*g/cat amity continues, without success, in Dobrzyn:

A: Hili, do not be afraid. Cyrus is on a leash and I told him that jumping is forbidden.
Hili: But did he understand everything? I have a feeling that you are using too long and complicated sentences.

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In Polish:
Ja: Hili, nie bój się, Cyrus jest na smyczy i mówiłem mu, że nie wolno mu podskakiwać.
Hili: Ale czy on wszystko zrozumiał, mam wrażenie, że używasz zbyt długich i 
skomplikowanych zdań?

D’Souza’s probably going to jail

May 20, 2014 • 7:37 pm

I guess his faith didn’t help him, for according to New York’s Daily News, Dinesh D’Souza pleaded guilty to felony violations of campaign finance laws (he was originally charged with making false statements, but those charges were apparently dropped in the plea bargain).

The feds will dismiss the false statements count when D’Souza is sentenced on Sept. 23. The illegal contributions count carries a maximum sentence of two years in prison, but his plea deal calls for 10 to 16 months behind bars.

That certainly implies jail, but the News adds

D’Souza will likely seek a more lenient sentence but may be fined up to $250,000.

“I knew that causing a campaign contribution to be made in the name of another was wrong and something the law forbids,” D’Souza, wearing a black suit and colorful tie, said softly in court.

Poor Dinesh! I do not think he’ll do well in the pen.

Two cars

May 20, 2014 • 12:14 pm

These are the true heroes of atheism, although an even bigger hero would be someone sporting a cross on a car in Saudi Arabia. At any rate, this car will not survive intact for long!

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And some humor, and perhaps it’s a PhotoShop job. You’ll recognize the cat, I hope:

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h/t: Barry

Pigliucci pwns Neil deGrasse Tyson; SMBC teases Pigliucci

May 20, 2014 • 9:03 am

Neil DeGrasse Tyson has criticized philosophy quite a bit recently, and so has Lawrence Krauss, though Krauss apologized for some of his more egregious statements. Tyson, however, remains obdurately anti-philosophy, and that has angered Massimo Pigliucci. Over at his new website Scientia Salon, Pigliucci takes out after Tyson in a post called “Neil DeGrasse Tyson and the value of philosophy”. I think it’s a pretty good defense of the value of some philosophy, and includes stuff like the following (it takes the form of an open letter to Tyson):

You and a number of your colleagues keep asking what philosophy (of science, in particular) has done for science, lately. There are two answers here: first, much philosophy of science is simply not concerned with advancing science, which means that it is a category mistake (a useful philosophical concept [11]) to ask why it didn’t. The main objective of philosophy of science is to understand how science works and, when it fails to work (which it does, occasionally), why this was the case. It is epistemology applied to the scientific enterprise. And philosophy is not the only discipline that engages in studying the workings of science: so do history and sociology of science, and yet I never heard you dismiss those fields on the grounds that they haven’t discovered the Higgs boson. Second, I suggest you actually look up some technical papers in philosophy of science [12] to see how a number of philosophers, scientists and mathematicians actually do collaborate to elucidate the conceptual and theoretical aspects of research on everything from evolutionary theory and species concepts to interpretations of quantum mechanics and the structure of superstring theory. Those papers, I maintain, do constitute a positive contribution of philosophy to the progress of science — at least if by science you mean an enterprise deeply rooted in the articulation of theory and its relationship with empirical evidence.

and this:

A common refrain I’ve heard from you (see direct quotes above) and others, is that scientific progress cannot be achieved by “mere armchair speculation.” And yet we give a whole category of Nobels to theoretical physicists, who use the deductive power of mathematics (yes, of course, informed by previously available empirical evidence) to do just that. Or — even better — take mathematics itself, a splendid example of how having one’s butt firmly planted on a chair (and nowhere near any laboratory) produces both interesting intellectual artifacts in their own right and an immense amount of very practical aid to science. No, I’m not saying that philosophy is just like mathematics or theoretical physics. I’m saying that one needs to do better than dismiss a field of inquiry on the grounds that it is not wedded to a laboratory setting, or that its practitioners like comfortable chairs.

I have to agree with Massimo here: it’s simply stupid to dismiss all philosophy as valueless. While I think that some of it is (the discussions of “the meaning of meaning”, for instance, leave me cold), philosophy has been of substantial value in areas like ethics. What is the Euthyphro argument, for instance, except philosophy? And that argument, often used by atheists, shows pretty definitively that morality cannot come directly from God.  Further, Massimo notes that philosophy does progress in the sense that it explores conceptual space over time, and nowhere has it done this more effectively than ethics.  The work of Peter Singer, for instance, builds on a lot of previous ethics, and has been valuable in helping us clarify how to deal with strangers, how to treat animals, and so on. Over time, fallacious arguments get weeded out, and philosophy helps collate our scattered ideas into coherence.

Further, philosophy helps scientists be rigorous, for the discipline teaches the logical tools that can help clarify scientific thinking. I, for one, have benefitted from reading the lucubrations of Dan Dennett about consciousness and about evolution, even if I don’t always agree with him. So on this count I think Tyson needed to be schooled. Massimo’s rebuke is kindly and not ascerbic, but Pigliucci reports that, in an email reply, Tyson simply won’t be budged. As Massimo noted:

As for a possible reply from Neil, I have, of course, invited him to submit one. Here is his reply, verbatim: “I generally reply to things if, and only if, they are writing about something that I judge to be untrue about me, or that they have misunderstood about what I have said. Neither is the case with you.”

That’s neither cool nor polite, Dr. Tyson, and it bespeaks an unwillingness to learn.

As a footnote, though, the strip SMBC took it upon itself to tease Massimo with this cartoon. I vaguely remember Massimo making the “same river” point, but I can’t recall where. Perhaps a reader can help.

Yes, that’s clearly Dr. Pigliucci, but the artist forgot the black diamond earring. . .

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h/t: Mark