Steve Pinker reviews Faith versus Fact

August 3, 2015 • 12:30 pm

In the latest issue of Current Biology, Steve Pinker has written a longish review (2 pages) of Faith versus Fact, and it’s free online (pdf at the link).  His review is called “The untenability of faitheism,” a title I like a lot. You can read it for yourself, but I’ll give two brief excerpts. The first shows Steve’s frequent use of tropes from popular culture.

The term faitheism was coined by Jerry Coyne, a Drosophila biologist who made major contributions to our understanding of speciation before becoming a prolific essayist, blogger and a vociferous public defender of the modern synthesis in evolutionary biology. (How vociferous? His blog is called ‘whyevolutionistrue’.) His latest book, Faith Versus Fact, is intended not to pile on the arguments for atheism but to advance the debate into its next round. It is a brief against the faitheists — scientists and religionists alike — who advocate a make-nice accommodation between science and religion. As with Michael Corleone’s offer to Nevada Senator Pat Geary in The Godfather Part II, Coyne’s offer to religion on the part of science is this: Nothing.

Now I didn’t coyne the term “faitheism”, as I recall: it was the winner in a contest I devised to invent a word that referred to atheists who are soft on religion; and I can’t remember who won. But I’m glad it’s become a part of the science/religion discourse.

Steve has one minor plaint, but that’s okay, as is the use of the term “bl*g” to refer to this site (it’s used twice in the paragraph above and once below!). I forgive him these trespasses because he disarms the “preaching-to-the-choir” accusation, and because his review is favorable:

In his book, Coyne has examined every talking point in the New Atheism debate but one: the allegedly shrill, militant, extremist, fundamentalist tone of the anti-God squad. Here he leads by example. Faith Versus Fact is unquestionably partisan, but its tone is matter-of-fact, and the offense that its targets will surely take will come from the force of his arguments rather than any ridicule or cheap shots. Indeed, my only real criticism of the book is that it has been stripped of the sass and wit that enliven his blog whyevolutionistrue. Nonetheless, Faith Versus Fact is clear and gripping, and should be read by anyone interested in the tension between science and religion. By meeting the claims of the faitheists and accommodationists head-on, Coyne shows that in this debate the two sides aren’t preaching to their choirs or talking past each other, and that the truth does not always fall halfway between two extremes.

My interview with Matt Dillahunty in Austin

August 2, 2015 • 7:40 am

When I visited Matt Dillahunty in Austin, he suggested that we do a one-on-one interview not only about Faith versus Fact, but also about science in general and evolution in particular. This video was one of his productions for his Patreon contributors (you can find it here), but is also posted on YouTube, and I embed it below. As always, I can’t bear to watch it, so I can’t say how it went. It’s fifty minutes long. I have no idea why that blasted photo is the video avatar; it looks as if I can’t stand my own book!

Matt is doing superb work lecturing and especially debating theists: as a former diehard Southern Baptist, he’s uniquely qualified to debate believers, does so regularly, and, so I hear, has a remarkable record of victory.As most of you know, he also is one of the hosts of The Atheist Experience on Austin cable t.v., perhaps the nation’s most famous television show for nonbelievers (see the archive here).

I was greatly impressed by his knowledge of religion and philosophy, and by his ability to counter the arguments of both garden-variety theists as well as Sophisticated Theologians™.  These efforts, which largely constitute Matt’s work, deserve our support. And you can tender your support, at least in a pencuniary way, by making a donation on Matt’s Patreon page.

FvF competition: readers in all the right places

July 26, 2015 • 11:10 am

Don’t forget the new Fact v Faith competition, with the rules:

Send a photo of yourself (or a member of your family) holding Faith versus Fact in the most incongruous place or situation you can think of. Be creative. 

We’ve already had some great ones, and we have a few more now. Send yours in before August 20th.

Reader Laurie Sindoni sent us this:

Whom shall I believe…Professor Jerry A. Coyne or the trees? So; here is Geth; reading our new favourite book (he had better finish it before 4 August when we leave for Santorini because that’s MY beach reading!) in front of a tree.  I refer, of course, to the oft-employed retort by Christians when offering undisputed proof of their god: “look at the trees.”

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Richard Page sent this in:

This is my attempt at a FvF selfie… taken on Royal Street behind St. Louis Cathedral in the French Quarter. Before Katrina hit, the space was occupied by an enormous live oak (possibly the largest in New Orleans), but the storm caused too much damage and was removed. A touchdown Jesus statue was put in its place, and lit to cast a rather ominous shadow on the back of the cathedral at night. It’s a popular spot for FQ walking tours, including the vampire tours.
Unfortunately, it will have to be disqualified for the contest because I couldn’t get an exposure that would show both the shadow on the building and the cover page on my Kindle… so the cover is dropped in from another underexposed shot… oh well.
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Debra Copran wrote in:

I am sending this to you from La Jolla, California.
The controversy over this cross has been in the courts for 25 years.
It was owned by the city of San Diego on public land until they finally found a way to save it.
It has a long history so I won’t go into it here. Rest assured, it will never come down now that the city sold it to a Veteran’s group and now sits on private property so it could be saved.

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Another contest: photograph yourself with FvF in an incongruous place

July 21, 2015 • 2:00 pm

Okay, we already have a photograph of reader Tom Czarny holding up Faith versus Fact in front of the Vatican. Now reader Mark Cagnetta has sent in a related photo, which came with this caption:

In tribute to your recent visit to Arizona I took this shot in front of the new Mormon Temple in Phoenix.

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Having two photos of course inspired a contest, especially now that the Trump Your Cat Contest is coming to an end (winner announced soon). Here are the rules for the new contest:

Send a photo of yourself (or a member of your family) holding Faith versus Fact in the most incongruous place or situation you can think of. Be creative. 

I’ll give people a whole month to think of cool photos. Deadline: August 20, 2015; one entry per person. NO PHOTOSHOPPING. If you have the book on Kindle, you can still find a way.

The winner will get a hardback of the book (first edition, first printing) autographed by me, made out to whomever you want, and with a cat of your choice drawn in it. Of course you’ll already have procured a copy of the book to take the photo, so if you wish I’ll substitute a paperback copy of WEIT (I have no more hardbacks).

Both Tom and Mark have been grandfathered into the contest.

p.s. Try this in front of mosques only at your own risk. . .

Two critical reviews of Faith versus Fact

July 9, 2015 • 12:00 pm

With the good reviews come the bad, and although I had predicted that Faith versus Fact would be uniformly panned by believers, a science journalist—John Horgan—has gone after it in both the Wall Street Journal (sadly, the article, “Preaching to the converted,” is behind a paywall) as well as in in his Scientific American blog, where he couldn’t resist giving a precis his WSJ review (his piece at SA is “Book by biologist Jerry Coyne goes too far in denouncing religion, defending science.” I’m not going to respond to Horgan’s review in detail: he notes that, as is the case, we’ve bickered before in the blogosphere (mostly about free will), and I don’t propose to extend the bickering. His main point is in the first paragraphs:

I’ve never understood the appeal of preaching to the converted. What’s the point? Why bother bashing believers in ghosts, homeopathy and Allah or non-believers in global warming, childhood vaccines and evolution in ways that cannot persuade but only annoy those who don’t pre-agree with you?

This question kept coming to mind as I read “Faith vs. Fact,” the latest in a seemingly endless series of books that berate religious believers for their foolishness. Biologist Jerry Coyne reveals early on that his goal is to enlist more people in his anti-religion crusade. He was disappointed that his previous book, “Why Evolution Is True,” a tutorial on Darwinian theory, failed to vanquish creationism. What Americans need, Mr. Coyne decided, is “not just an education in facts, but a de-education in faith.” His shrill, self-righteous diatribe is more likely to hurt his cause than help it.

Well, I deny that the book is shrill and self-righteous. What Horgan clearly dislikes most is that I don’t snuggle up sufficiently closely to faith, or admit its benefits. Further, neither I nor the other New Atheist books are “preaching to the converted,” but talking to those who are on the fence, or haven’t thought through the issue of how religion and science relate to each other.

And, of course, does anybody criticize the religious books (ALL OF THEM!) that really do “preach to the converted”? Has that ever been used as a criticism of Alvin Plantinga, John Haught, John Polkinghorne, et al.? If so, I haven’t seen it. After all, where does the metaphor of “preaching to the converted” come from?

Curiously, Horgan was once an opponent of the accommodation of science and religion—he wrote an admirably critical piece on Edge about taking money from the Templeton Foundation—but seems to have changed his tune about the issue. The Edge piece contains, for instance, Horgan’s recommendation for the Templeton Foundation:

“First, the foundation should state clearly that it is not committed to any particular conclusion of the science-religion dialogue, and that one possible conclusion is that religion — at least in its traditional, supernatural manifestations — is not compatible with science. To demonstrate its open-mindedness, the foundation should award the Templeton Prize to an opponent of religion, such as Steven Weinberg or Richard Dawkins.”

It’s a pity that Horgan now considers such conclusions as “shrill and self-righteous”! For surely The God Delusion is more extreme in its criticisms than Faith versus Fact.

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Over at ScienceNews, science journalist Bruce Bower goes after the book in his review “‘Faith versus Fact’ takes aim at religion.” Here I have a few things to say because Bower’s review seems ill-informed, either because he didn’t really read the book very carefully or is commited to a pro-faith agenda. A few quotes and my reaction:

Coyne, a veteran of battles with creationists, says science generates evidence-based knowledge while religious faith consists of unverifiable, supernatural convictions. His book joins those of Richard Dawkins and other “new atheists,” who regard religious faith as delusional and religious believers as dangerously intolerant toward nonbelievers and inconvenient scientific findings.

Never in the book do I even come close to saying that religious faith is delusional or that all religious believers are “dangerously intolerant toward nonbelievers and inconvenient scientific findings.” I avoided hot-button words like “delusional,” and in fact use the term only once: to refer to how believers in some faiths regard believers in other faiths! And even Bower must admit that many religionists, like creationists or extreme Muslims, are intolerant toward nonbelievers (for crying out loud, look at ISIS or the laws of Saudi Arabia) or toward “inconvenient scientific findings” (viz., Christian Scientists and creationists).

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[Coyne] ends by arguing for a worldwide turn to secular, European-style social democracies. In these nonreligious societies forged from a wide range of cultures and political systems, Coyne predicts, opposition would recede to evolutionary theory, scientific reports of human-caused global warming, childhood vaccinations and assisted dying. People would be happier without God, he says. But his scenario rides more on faith than fact.

Well, I do give evidence that for this claim, including the strong correlation between secularism and acceptance of evolution (both within and among countries), the religiously-based opposition to vaccination and assisted dying (this is undeniable: Catholics have long lobbied against assisted dying), and some evidence that religion has prompted some people to deny global warming. Further, I challenge Bower to show me where in the book I say, or even imply, that “people would be happier without God”. What I say is that people can be happy without God, and that godless societies don’t have to be dysfunctional. None of this is based on faith: look at Scandinavia, whose general well-being and comparatively moral governments are not a matter of “faith”.

More:

Coyne makes debatable points about both science and religion. While science contains powerful accepted knowledge, he underplays the importance of discoveries that increase uncertainty about what’s known.

This is science-dissing, pure and simple.  (Criticizing science and emphasizing its limits are, for many, ways to promoting religion, as though tearing down the former builds up the latter.) Throughout the book I emphasize that scientific conclusions are provisional, and that many earlier conclusions regarded as sound (like the immobility of continents) have shown to be wrong. Further, discoveries that cast doubt on what is know do represent scientific progress, for they help dispel error—and that’s progress. But I deny absolutely that, as a whole, science has not generally led to an increased understanding of nature. Does Mr. Bower abjure the canon of science-based medicine?

Here are my “debatable” points about religion:

Coyne portrays religion as a byproduct of an evolved human tendency to mistake inanimate objects for living things. But researchers who study small-scale societies suspect that religion has flourished throughout human evolution partly because it deepens individuals’ commitment to their communities.

Religion doesn’t churn out science-worthy evidence, as Coyne argues. But the author doesn’t come to grips with faith’s deep evolutionary roots. If religion is irrational, it should have been eradicated through natural selection among Stone Age folk. Coyne’s book will irk religious friends and foes of science alike. And that’s a fact.

This is complete hogwash.  I summarize several theories about how religion originated, including evolved ones, one that piggyback on evolved tendencies, Boyer’s “agency” theory, group selection, and so on. And I conclude that, since we weren’t there, the origins of religion are irrecoverably lost in the past. Further, Bower’s claim that researchers in general see religion as a result of individual (or even group) selection to promote group welfare is simply wrong: researchers are still groping to understand why religion either evolved genetically (I know of no “religiosity genes”) or culturally. It’s statements like the first paragraph above that lead me to conclude that Bower didn’t read the book with any care.

Finally, in the last paragraph Bower argues that irrationality in the form of religion would have reduced reproductive output (implying that it’s is genetic), and therefore should have disappeared. Conclusion: religion is rational. Both the genetic and reproductive-output claims are dubious at best. Further, Bower is mistaking “rationality” for “usefulness”.

Irrationality in any endeavor or philosophy will disappear through natural selection only to the extent that a). it has a genetic basis and b). “irrationality” genes reduce reproductive output. If this were invariably the case, no irrationality would remain in our species. But of course there is. To name a few forms, we have homeopathy, our tendency to view ourselves as better than we are, conspiracy theories, climate-change denialism, and so on. In my book I quote Steve Pinker on the issue of whether human beliefs are rational or supportable:

Members of our species commonly believe, among other things, that objects are naturally at rest unless pushed, that a severed tetherball will fly off in a spiral trajectory, that a bright young activist is more likely to be a feminist bankteller than a bankteller, that they themselves are above average in every desirable trait, that they saw the Kennedy assassination on live television, that fortune and misfortune are caused by the intentions of bribable gods and spirits, and that powdered rhinoceros horn is an effective treatment for erectile dysfunction. The idea that our minds are designed for truth does not sit well with such facts.

Does Bower deny that irrationality persists in our species? If it does, why is it still with us?

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There’s also a new review of FvF in World Religion News, but, curiously, it renders no verdict, merely recounting a few things I said in the book.

h/t: John

Just a heads up: Jerry on Futureproof today

June 27, 2015 • 5:24 am

Jerry will be on Irish talk radio station Newstalk discussing his new book with Jonathan McCrea on Futureproof @newstalkscience this morning 12-1 PM GMT.

That’s 6AM Chicago time, so I doubt our friends on the western side of the Atlantic will be out of bed yet, but they can catch up later.

Listen live here http://www.newstalk.com/player

UPDATE: the show is now available as a podcast. Jerry’s portions starts just over the half-way mark but the whole thing is pretty good fun to listen to. My favorite angry text message afterwards was the person who complained about Catholic-bashing,even though the word Catholic wasn’t mentioned once.

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