Livestreaming the Vice Presidential debate

You can watch Mike Pence and Kamala Harris go at each other at many places. One of them is the CSPAN livestream below. The debate starts in exactly an hour, and, if you wish, you may comment below as it proceeds.

May the best Democrat win!

69 Comments

  1. GBJames
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Sub

  2. W.T. Effingham
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    May the best non-vicey Vice-President lose. Pence 2024: We’re gonna Make ‘Murikuh Great Again,Again,Again!

  3. BobTerrace
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Pence will spew lie after lie at a machine gun rate. The fact checkers will have a field day.

    • Posted October 7, 2020 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

      Given he has been hanging around tRump and the WH, lies may not be the only thing he will spew.

  4. Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Add some spice, or a drinking game. Just started:

  5. Gene
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    here come the lies

    • sugould
      Posted October 8, 2020 at 6:35 am | Permalink

      read that as “here come the flies. Apparently a fly landed on Pence?

  6. Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    In response to the question about the Rose Garden Superspreader event, Pence simply ducks the question, as he’s ducked all questions so far. And he runs over time.

    But Harris isn’t completely on point, either. I guess that’s the way these things go.

    The moderator is not enforcing the time regulations

  7. Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    I guess we can no longer expect debates in which the candidates answer the questions asked. Why can’t the moderator make them answer the damn questions? Harris is now ducking the question about whether she had a talk with Biden about his possible incapacitation.

    • BobTerrace
      Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

      I am just a few minutes away from turning this “debate” off.

  8. Gene
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Senator Harris is showing extraordinary restraint in dealing with this yahoo

    • Filippo
      Posted October 8, 2020 at 9:51 am | Permalink

      “Senator Harris is showing extraordinary restraint . . . .”

      Yes it is good for her to show restraint. And for her the restraint may well be extraordinary, inasmuch as she has been unable or unwilling to show much restraint during the Demo candidate debates (when Biden got an ear-full from her) and during her questioning of witnesses before senate committees, doing her share of interrupting and holding forth with snarky comments. Which I gather is par for the course in The World’s Greatest Deliberative Body.

      • GBJames
        Posted October 8, 2020 at 9:54 am | Permalink

        You don’t seem very cheerful this morning, Filippo.

        • Filippo
          Posted October 8, 2020 at 10:09 am | Permalink

          “You don’t seem very cheerful this morning, Filippo.”

          I congenially thank you for your observation. Perhaps brethren here will deign to pray for me to be delivered from whatever may be ailing me.

    • Posted October 8, 2020 at 11:35 am | Permalink

      “Senator Harris is showing extraordinary restraint in dealing with this yahoo.”

      I wish she would show a bit more restraint and lose the conspiratorial smirk while Pence is talking–or else that the camera wouldn’t show the candidates’ reactions. Biden did the same thing with Trump and it accomplishes nothing except play to the base. The only candidate I’ve ever seen who could get away with this “There he goes again” grin was Reagan, but he was a professional actor.

      • GBJames
        Posted October 8, 2020 at 11:55 am | Permalink

        I love it when Republicans lecture people in proper debate etiquette.

        • Filippo
          Posted October 9, 2020 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

          “I love it when Republicans lecture people in proper debate etiquette.”

          No doubt, without Ms. Harris’s smirk, a debate not a few evaluate as boring would have been even more boring, I suppose.

          • GBJames
            Posted October 9, 2020 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

            At least she didn’t wear a tan suit!

  9. ken Kukec
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    We’re getting two stump speeches, interrupted by the occasional question the debaters promptly ignore.

  10. Gene
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    yes, both seem to be *not* answering the questions that are being asked

  11. Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Who the hell should take a vaccine pushed only by tRump. Why is this a debate?

  12. Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    At least the interruptions are fewer.

  13. gene
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    at least Harris is not lying the way her opponent is, though. So I guess there is that

  14. Gene
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    yes, fewer interruptions is a refreshing change from last week

  15. Blue
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Some may want to k n o w the name of
    Mr Crede Bailey who, until his hospitalization
    a few days ago L E D ” the office in charge of
    credentialing people for access to
    the White House and works closely with
    the Secret Service ” personnel. Bona fide
    sources in re him: ” gravely ill ” now
    for days and days. Covid.
    https://tinyurl.com/y2q3unz2

    Blue

  16. GBJames
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    You guys are better than me. I can’t watch.

  17. Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    So far, a bit boring

  18. Ken Kukec
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Pence twice said a Biden administration would “literally crush” American jobs.

    I don’t think that’s possible unless you work as trash compactor or punch-press operator and have a nasty industrial accident.

    • Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

      Pence could certainly crush the life out of a good party.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

        I’m surprised “Mother” let him get on stage alone with a woman.

        • gravelinspector-Aidan
          Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

          She (is “Mother” a she? or an American pop-culture reference I don’t get?) probably kitted him out with a one of these.
          Sorry – I didn’t mean to imply that the Chinese have Pence by the short’n’curlies. But that implication is certainly in there. It’ll make a change having American politics controlled from Beijing instead of Moscow.

          Hang on … “Mother” from “The Avengers” … no, still doesn’t fit. Whatever.

          • Ken Kukec
            Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

            “Mother” is what Mike Pence calls his wife.

            Pence refuses to dine alone with a woman other than “Mother,” and won’t go anyplace where alcohol is served without “Mother” at his side.

            It’s some kind of weird “Billy Graham Rule” he and “Mother” follow.

            • Posted October 7, 2020 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

              It’s quite common, at least in my native England, to hear husbands of my generation and earlier (I’m 73) refer to their wives as ‘Mother’ but only if the couple have children.
              That’s how fathers their age would refer to their wife when talking to the children, and it becomes a habit.
              I’ve always regarded it as rather homely, charming and respectful.
              Pence ruined ‘that’ notion for me. He’s skin-crawlingly weird IMO.

            • Filippo
              Posted October 8, 2020 at 9:15 am | Permalink

              IIRC, Lincoln addressed Mary Todd Lincoln as “Mother.” (At least he did in the movie.)

              Pence’s “Billy Graham Rule” must gall those who’d like to find the flimsiest excuse to hypothesize/speculate about any situation where he was/is unchaperoned in the presence of another woman. (The old, “Just asking the question.”) I reasonably assume that he took to heart Gary Hart’s experience.

            • gravelinspector-Aidan
              Posted October 8, 2020 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

              Sounds like something out of “Psycho”. Which may be where he got it from.
              How did Tom Lehrer sum up ‘Oedipus Rex’? “It’s about a boy who loves his Mother.”

  19. Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    I am split screening with the Yankees Rays game. So far I can follow both easily.

  20. Blue
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    ¡ Y E A ! Senator Harris just got
    to what ‘as angered me for weeks,
    ” President Trump says
    ‘ Science doesn’t know.’ ”

    Oooo. I cannot.not. get started,
    Mr Trump / Mr Pence.

    Blue

  21. Gene
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Joe Biden has been “a cheerleader for communist China for decades”??!!

    What the heck?

  22. ritaprangle
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    The mederator needs to be more forceful than “Thank you, Mr. Vice President”!

    • sugould
      Posted October 8, 2020 at 9:50 am | Permalink

      A loud handclap followed by a yelled “HEY!” sometimes gets the attention of my cat.

  23. Ken Kukec
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Pence’s pat answer to every question about climate change is “the climate is changing.”

    When it comes to evading any discussion of cause or responsibility, that ranks up there with Ronald Reagan’s Iran-Contra “mistakes were made.”

  24. Posted October 7, 2020 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Harris more animated than Pence. But then so would a mannequin.

    • Filippo
      Posted October 8, 2020 at 9:19 am | Permalink

      “Harris more animated than Pence.”

      No doubt that has some entertainment value.

  25. Blue
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    … … from a commenter of the Washington
    Post’s opinion columnists’ blog also
    following the debate, ” Trump gaslights
    frenetically. Pence gaslights calmly. ”

    Blue

    • Randall Schenck
      Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

      Yes, that is what America has been waiting for: A calm gaslighter. Someone who can lie with the best of them.

  26. Ken Kukec
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Pence sure knocked that one out of the park about what he’d want Indiana to do about legal abortion if Roe were overruled.

    WTF?

  27. gene
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    I think I’m going to check out of this one early- thanks to all for sharing your viewpoints and allowing me to do the same.

  28. Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know why Biden/Harris don’t just dodge the court packing question by pointing out that it is Congress that determines that.

    • kesheck
      Posted October 8, 2020 at 11:03 am | Permalink

      I had the same thought.

    • GBJames
      Posted October 8, 2020 at 11:49 am | Permalink

      Not exactly. Presidents nominate justices. The Senate confirms. Unless the president is a Democrat and the Senate is controlled by Moscow Mitch. Then it ignores nominations.

      • Posted October 8, 2020 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

        I am talking about increasing the number of justices which, as far as I know, is solely a Congressional decision. After the number is increased, the President can start nominating.

        • GBJames
          Posted October 8, 2020 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

          Ah. You are correct.

  29. Blue
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Oooo, Senator Harris in re white supremacy and
    Mr Trump last week. ¡ Gooood ON her !

    Blue

  30. Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    The fly was the highlight of the evening.

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

      That fly got to the carcass while it’s still warm.

      • tjeales
        Posted October 7, 2020 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

        VP Renfield

      • sugould
        Posted October 8, 2020 at 6:39 am | Permalink

        When did the fly appear? I missed it!

      • Filippo
        Posted October 8, 2020 at 9:22 am | Permalink

        “That fly got to the carcass while it’s still warm.”

        Do you think the fly, unlike the coronavirus, had a preference between the two debaters?

        • GBJames
          Posted October 8, 2020 at 9:30 am | Permalink

          LOL. From all appearances. You can get a complete answer in the upcoming interview.

          • Filippo
            Posted October 8, 2020 at 10:02 am | Permalink

            Maybe a requirement for a (V)POTUS candidate should be to have dark hair. Y’know, just in case a fly should happen by.

            NYT’s Frank Bruni blesses readers with his pearls of wisdom about the fly. He references what he perceives to be Pence’s “constipated half-smile.” As a former food writer, no doubt he’s an expert on constipation.

        • GBJames
          Posted October 8, 2020 at 10:21 am | Permalink

          Turns out the fly had a clear preference. Details are found here.

  31. Randall Schenck
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Well, it’s over now, thank goodness. Harris finished well even though she could have done better in the first half. Pence was the opposite, better at first and then went bad in the last half. At the end of the day, it made little difference. Trump is finished and that is all that matters. Like they said, more than 5 million people have already voted and in the next two weeks about 10 million more.

  32. rickflick
    Posted October 7, 2020 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Pence’s secret formula, besides evasion, is to list DT’s rally talking points with as much sincerity as he can muster. Unfortunately, all DT’s supporters accept it already. The needle will not move.
    Harris did a good job of assuring people that if she has to take over the oval office, she is able.

  33. Matt
    Posted October 8, 2020 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    The fly chose Pence. Any questions?

  34. Posted October 8, 2020 at 5:40 am | Permalink

    Democrat forever😍😍


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