Kamloops: Day 3

May 25, 2014 • 5:36 am

Besides the free-will discussion a week ago Friday, in which several of us participated (Lawrence Krauss and I were the scientists, Ish Haji and Chris diCarlo the philosophers), the Imagine No Religion 4 conference in Kamloops included  two full days of talks, interspersed with dinners and social events.

I’ve already reported on the first full day of talks, and here’s a brief rundown of the second, a week ago today. I’ve included two videos since none were made of the talks—a great shame given their uniformly high quality. (I’ve been told that the free-will panel is on video on YouTube, but I haven’t looked.)

First, here’s the main organizer and emcee, the amiable and estimable Bil Ligertwood. I thank Bill and the sponsors, the Kamloops Center for Rational Thought, Humanist Canada, and the BC Humanist Association, for putting on such a fine meeting and treating the speakers so well. Seriously, this was a great conference, with every talk being good (I’m excepting mine from this judgement)—a rarity.

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In his “talk,” Dan  Barker, co-president of the Freedom from Religion Foundation and ex-pentecostal preacher, first played some songs on a synthesizer (I think that’s what they’re still called), and then recounted his days telling people the Good News. As he said, “I was the guy you wouldn’t want to sit next to on the bus,” and then mimicked how he used to tell his captive seatmates about Jesus.

Dan is an accomplished musician who made a name for himself writing Christian music, for which he still receives royalties. I had the privilege of sitting next to Dan, Jerry DeWitt (another ex-Pentecostal preacher) and Seth Andrews (an ex-Christian radio jock) at dinner, and listening them trade stories of the bad old days when they were believers. It was quite enlightening, especially to hear them ask each other questions and find similarities in their (ex) beliefs.

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As we walked in to the first full day of talks on Saturday, Dan was sitting at the keyboard playing songs, and was then joined by saxophonist Dennis Rudinak for a duet of the John Lennon song, “Imagine.” I made a video, though I’m an amateur at this.

Carolyn Porco, head of the imaging team for the Cassini mission to Saturn, gave what I thought was the best talk of the conference. It was loaded with science, fantastic images, and wound up with her team’s re-enactment of Sagan’s “pale blue dot” picture: a photo of a tiny, distant Earth taken beside Saturn’s rings. Her closing, in which she mused about this representing the conjunction of Galileo and Darwin (showing our evolved brains’ abilities to not only see Saturn but get there) was absolutely lyrical. She got a standing ovation.

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Darrell Ray gave a hilarious but enlightening talk (including a picture of himself en déshabillé) about a survey he and Amanda Brown took about the sex lives of religionists and nonbelievers. Hemant Mehta summarized the results here, and the salacious details are summarized in Ray’s book, Sex and God: How Religion Distorts Sexuality. Ray’s talk was leavened with a few joke slides, one of which is below: “Why do you masturbate?” Click it and read it.

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Christine Shellska, a grad student in communications at Calgary, gave a nice talk on the varieties of rhetoric that can be used to advance skepticism, and some of the rhetorical pitfalls we should watch for. Her presentation was followed by a ukelele song played by her friend.

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Margaret Downey, founder and president of The Freethought Society, urged atheists to tell their stories, and demonstrated how to do it in a superb recounting of her journey to atheism. Illustrated with pictures of her life, the talk described her dysfunctional childhood, her near-fatal bout with asthma (in which three nuns made an unwanted appearance), and her distressing encounters with religionists when she was an interior decorator. It was a moving story, and I told her so.

Note that she’s wearing her Flying Spaghetti Monster. Margaret has sewing skillz, and quickly repaired to her room before her talk to fasten the FSM to her dress.

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Many of you have listened to Seth Andrews, who has an immensely popular podcast as “The Thinking Atheist.” Seth’s talk was called “How religion steals the best ideas,” and showed all the ways that the faithful rip off secular tropes from popular culture and religionize them. The part on Christian bands was particularly amusing. But there was a serious lesson, too: Christians do this so their kids can have what they see as desirable cultural experiences, but ones that have been infused with Christianity to keep the kids in the fold, insulated from the surrounding culture.

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Here are two of the many ripoffs Seth mentioned. I’ve shown this one before: a copy of the Starbucks logo, transformed into a Jesus shirt:

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And the famous Christian candy, Testamints!

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 I’ve already posted on Eugenie Scott’s keynote address at Kamloops, which was good, though I disagreed with her stand on theistic evolution, a stand that she discussed in the Q&A.

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After the talks there was a dinner for the speakers, and we could order anything we wanted from the Asian-fusion menu (I have to say that the conference was great for noms). I managed to take a photo of Jerry DeWitt talking to Dan Barker. DeWitt is a lovely guy—and a brave one. Having lost his parishoners, his wife, and nearly all his friends after giving up his Pentacostal ministry and confessing his atheism, he vowed to remain in the small Louisiana town where he lived. How he remains so friendly and cheerful despite the continuing rejection and disapprobation is a mystery to me.

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I managed to take a video of part of DeWitt’s talk on Saturday, the part where he talks about leaving the faith with the help of “Bishop” Dan Barker and The Clergy Project.

As I said, this was one of the best atheist meetings I’ve attended, and although it was relatively small (about 200 attendees), the talks were uniformly good, it was well organized, the audience was smart and interactive, and the noms were great. I suppose some people found it hard to get to because it’s in Kamloops, in the middle of British Columbia, but next year’s meeting will be in the lovely (and accessible) city of Vancouver.

Readers’ wildlife (and domesticlife) photos

May 25, 2014 • 4:18 am

Reader Stephen Barnard sends us not only a gadwall (Anas streptera), but two domestic animals as well. First, the bird in flight:

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And meet one of four cats owned by Stephen’s daughter.  His caption was:

Also, my daughter’s adorable, hand-raised rescue cat, Peck, begging to be petted.

I asked what was with the cage, and noted that Peck had an awesome beard (I didn’t look very closely!) His response:

That cat is pure sweetness. My daughter doesn’t let them out. They have the run of the house and an outdoor enclosure. I’m not comfortable with cats roaming wild on my ranch because they’re bad for birds and other wildlife. When we moved here two years ago there were over a dozen feral cats, most of them diseased. my daughter nursed them to health as best as she could and had them neutered and placed. Some had to be put down. Peck  was a very young kitten in good health.

It’s not a beard. That’s his paw. He’s reaching out for attention, and  probably resentful that the d*gs have the run of the place.

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Finally, another artificially selected beast:

Also a new goat, a male, who is destined for a wonderful life as a stud.

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Sunday: Hili dialogue

May 25, 2014 • 3:02 am

Hili: Dogs and cats use their tongues quite differently while drinking.
A: That is true, but we managed to understand this first when employment in agriculture decreased and employment in science increased.

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In Poliah:
Hili: Psy i koty zupełnie inaczej używają języka kiedy piją płyny.
Ja: To prawda, ale zrozumieliśmy to dopiero wtedy, kiedy spadło zatrudnienie w rolnictwie, a wzrosło w nauce.

NBC Evening News validates the Bible

May 24, 2014 • 3:57 pm

The evening news—the one t.v. show I watch besides “60 Minutes,” detailed Pope Francis’s visit to the “Holy Land” (he’s actually in Jordan). Well, I suppose I could live with that, but what rankled a tad was a shot of Francis being driven to the Jordan River by King Abdullah II, and then standing there, head bowed and hands clasped, with the narration:

“The Pope prayed at the spot where Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.”

Really? Shouldn’t there be an “allegedly” in there?

After all, this is the news. It’s as if a correspondent, standing in the North Woods, said, “It was near here that Paul Bunyan found the young Babe, the faithful blue ox that would become his faithful sidekick.”

It’s bizarre that someone like the Tsarnaev brothers must (and rightly so) be described as “alleged killers” before conviction, while the news casts no doubt on the historicity of a 2000-year-old book of fiction. It’s 2014, and time for reputable news organizations to stop treating myths as if they were true.

 

 

Weekly weird comments

May 24, 2014 • 8:11 am

As I said, as our readership grows the wingnuts, creationists, extreme religionists and other bizarros are coming out of the woodwork in increasing numbers. This is only a small sample of the comments that didn’t make it through this week.

This first one, for example, might be a troll, but somehow I don’t think so. Reader “useless eater” comments on my post, “William Lane Craig defends his ridiculous view that animals don’t suffer

Far be it from to advocate for inflicting pain on any species. But i’m wondering if maybe i should have doubts that the Jews in concentration camps felt pain in the same way the rest of experience it.

I suppose I’m more willing to accept the existence of anti-Semitism than are some readers, but you might have heard of a new poll by the Anti-Defamation League, surveying 53,100 adults in 102 countries, showing that:

“More than one-in-four adults, 26 percent of those surveyed, are deeply infected with anti-Semitic attitudes.  This figure represents an estimated 1.09 billion people around the world

The overall ADL Global 100 Index score represents the percentage of respondents who answered “probably true” to six or more of 11 negative stereotypes about Jews. An 11-question index has been used by ADL as a key metric in measuring anti-Semitic attitudes in the United States for the last 50 years.

Further, only 54% of people surveyed had heard of the Holocaust (that amazes me), and, worse, about 2/3 of the people polled “have either never heard of the Holocaust, or do not believe historical accounts to be accurate.” Since 46% of people hadn’t heard of the Holocaust, that means that about 20% had, but thought it was fabricated. You can see the survey data graphically at this site, and remember, this isn’t like “Islamophobia”—the dislike of religious tenets—but rather the dislike of Jews themselves. The questions weren’t about religious beliefs.

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Ah, we’ve heard again from Texas dentist Don McLeroy, former head and later member of the Texas school board, who, as a creationist, tried his hardest to keep evolution away from the children he was charged with educating.  Here he comments on my post “

Dr. Coyne: I agree with you about rejecting theistic evolution; it is simply self-contradicting. This is one main reason you are worth reading and your blog is worth following. Genie Scott and Kenneth Miller–by contrast–are not as compelling.

A a creationist, I reject evolution because it fails the test as presented in the opening episode of Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey.

Here, Neil deGrasse Tyson and Ann Druyan present an incredibly clear and powerful description of the scientific process. They claim that if you “accept these terms, the Cosmos is yours.”

These terms, Tyson explains, are just a “simple set of rules.

Test ideas by experiment and observation.
Build on those ideas that pass the test.
Reject the ones that fail.
Follow the evidence wherever it leads, and
Question everything.”

Evolution simply fails the test; there is not even close to enough evidence to explain the amazing phenomenon we find in life.

Don McLeroy

This is a distillation of an unintentionally humorous post from his own website, “To my listening ear,” in which he simply dismisses all the evidence for evolution. One thing is for damn sure: whatever McLeroy’s ears do, they don’t listen. What puzzles me is the statement that he thinks my “blog” is worth following and the advocates of theistic evolution are not. If I’m so compelling, how come he rejects everything I say?

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Here’s a fervent plea from Muslim reader “Bushra”, intended as a comment on my post “British citizen sentenced to death in Pakistan for blasphemy“:

I wish if u ppl may ever get a chance to read Quran. We Muslims are not terrorists nor pakistanis… Its just all happening because of the wrong doers and the real terrorists who have come from idk where in Pakistan and are rising turbulence (in a sense of violence)its not about the law and order, its about the wrong people and perceptions i agree with all these cases but the reasons are shown in a wrong way..
I request u all to read Quran and all ur wrong concepts will be cleared …. once only… just like a book…! please

Well, I’ve read the Qur’an, and it merely reinforced my view that Muslim scripture encourages hateful behavior. And of course not all Islamic terrorists are Pakistanis (has he heard of Nigeria?).  This looks like Reza Aslan written in broken English.

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Reader James Schlup comments on my old post “Birds may be paedomorphic dinosaurs“:

No, the serpent (a bird at the time) was in the tree in the garden being used as a medium for Satan to talk to Eve. For that, God rebuked the serpent at said from now on it would be on the ground eating dust. Then the serpent, no longer able to fly, crawled out of the tree and those serpents, so cursed, but still laying eggs, became the species that descended from birds and became reptiles. Satan tried, through amalgamations of species to get them to fly again. Thus some fossil remains of “dinosaurs” that resemble birds in skeletal structure, but of course could not fly because God said they would not. James Schlup

Well that shows that biology got it all backwards!

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Finally, two comments on my post “Tear down this wall, Mr. Justice Roberts”: Supreme Court allows prayer in town meetings“.

From reader Jerry L. Gentry, a blight on the honorable name “Jerry”:

Maybe the pilgrims should have waited for the athiests [sic] and other divisive groups to land and prevent cutting trees or plowing land or eating game. Then true progress could be reduced to a crawl and today we could thank them for their contributions.

Yep, we’re all tree-huggers and vegetarians. It’s eating MEAT and cutting TREES, after all, that has made our country great.

Finally, from reader Jim, ignorant of the Constitution but ebullient in his capslock:

THIS IS A GREAT DAY!

It takes all kinds to make a world. But why does it have to be my small world?

Where the birds are

May 24, 2014 • 6:06 am

by Greg Mayer

[JAC note: read this! It’s good biology!]

One of the key sources of evidence for evolution is biogeography– the geographic distribution of plants and animals. The great 20th-century biogeographer P.J. Darlington famously said that biogeography showed Darwin evolution, and Jerry has long said that the facts of biogeography are among the most  compelling evidences of descent with modification. Carl Zimmer in the New York Times has called attention to a paper published yesterday in Science by Kieren Mitchell of the University of Adelaide and colleagues which addresses an old problem in biogeography with new data. Another paper, in press in Molecular Biology and Evolution, by Allan Baker of the Royal Ontario Museum and colleagues, addresses the same problem– and specific example– in a similar way.

Artist’s reconstruction of an extinct elephant bird (New York Times).

The problem is that of disjunction— related forms being found in widely separated places. The problem posed by disjunction is this: how did the related forms come to be in the disparate locations.? For land animals, a number of answers have been suggested over the years, all of which seem to be true in some cases:

The intervening space was once inhabited, but the creatures have since become extinct there. This is a well-known phenomenon: for example, species expand their range during climatically favorable times, and then contract during climatic deterioration, leaving relict disjuncts behind in locations that remain suitable. The wood frog (Rana sylvatica), a North American species found in colder areas and high latitudes, has disjunct populations in the Rockies, left behind as the general range shifted north as the climate warmed in interglacial periods (which for the wood frogs was a climatic deterioration).

Disjunction by extinction of intervening populations, while applicable to terrestrial animals separated by land, cannot account for disjunctions across water. This led to a once very popular explanation:

A land bridge connected the disjunct areas, allowing organisms to spread between them, but the bridge has now foundered and sunk beneath the sea. Speculative biogeographers once criss-crossed the oceans with hypothetical land bridges, but most of these land bridges are now seen as geologically improbable and biogeographically unnecessary. Nonetheless, land bridges definitely have existed and subsequently disappeared, and organisms crossed them when they were above water. Mammoths, for example, crossed between Asia and America during times of lower sea level when the Bering Strait became the Bering Land Bridge.

If there never was a land connection, then how did the organisms get from one place to the other?

The organisms dispersed across the water– flying, floating, rafting, swimming, etc.– by what Darwin called “occasional means of transport”. For land masses never connected, this is the only way a disjunction could have arisen, and numerous instances of over water dispersal have been observed, most frequently by flying, but even the rarer forms (e.g., lizards moving from island to island in the West Indies, an Aldabra tortoise coming ashore in Tanzania) are occasionally directly observed.

And finally, there’s a possibility that became popular after the establishment of plate tectonics in geology:

The disjunction was caused by the separation of an initially continuous landmass into two or more parts, so that the geographic distribution of organisms dispersed throughout the landmass became separated as well. In other words, the organisms didn’t move—their continents did. Once geology demonstrated the reality of continental drift, it became clear that a disjunction could occur not by the animals moving around (although they would have to have initially moved around throughout the contiguous primeval landmass), but by pieces of the earth moving around. So, to use a fossil example, the mammal-like reptile Cynognathus of the Triassic was found in both Africa and South America. This stout, meter-long animal was not a good candidate for trans-oceanic travel; but when it was realized that at that time the two continents were joined, the problem disappeared: continental drift accounted for the apparent disjunction.

The problem studied by both Mitchell and Baker is that of the distribution and relationships of the ratites—the group of large flightless birds that includes ostriches, rheas, cassowaries, kiwis, emus, and the very recently extinct moas and elephant birds. All of these birds are primarily found on the southern continents that were once joined together into the super-continent of Gondwana. Here is their present distribution:

Ratite distribution (Bronx Zoo).

Ratites have long been known to be related to one another and to the tinamous, a group of poorly-flying birds from South America. How the various flightless forms got their present distributions has long been a puzzle. Overwater dispersal seemed out (they’re flightless, after all), so perhaps they were once spread across the connecting northern continents, but have since gone extinct there. With the emergence of plate tectonics, a favored hypothesis was that the ancestral ratite was widespread on Gondwana, and, as the super-continent split up during the Cretaceous, the flightless birds on their respective chunks of land each went their own way and evolved into the modern forms. This view was championed by Joel Cracraft, now of the American Museum.

This view, however has come under criticism, with various authors suggesting that the birds actually had dispersed over water (see, for example, this precis of a talk by Mike Dickison from 2008). Both of the new papers, by Mitchell and Baker, support the over-water dispersal view. Baker, using ancient DNA techniques to study the DNA of the extinct New Zealand moas, confirms earlier work by him and his collaborators showing that the closest relatives of moas are the flighted tinamous, thus showing that flightlessness has evolved more than once within the ratites. Mitchell, also using ancient DNA techniques, shows that the Madagascan elephant birds’ closest relatives are the kiwis of New Zealand, and furthermore estimates the time of divergence at 50 million years ago—long after Gondwana had broken up to the point that wide seas separated Madagascar from New Zealand, thus implying that the common ancestor of the two was flighted.

Both research groups conclude that most or all of the distributional pattern of the ratites is due to over water dispersal by flying ancestors, occurring long after Gondwana had broken up into its modern parts, and that flightlessness evolved convergently within the ratites. According to the Times, Cracraft is not quite convinced yet, but thinks further work will soon reveal a fuller story of ratite evolutionary history.

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Baker, A.J., Haddrath, O., McPherson, J.D., and A. Cloutier.2014. Genomic support for a moa-tinamou clade and adaptive morphological convergence in flightless ratites. Molecular Biology and Evolution in press.

Cracraft, J. 1973. Phylogeny and evolution of the ratite birds. Ibis 116:494-521.

Mitchell, K.J., Llamas, B. Soubrier, J, Rawlence, N.J., Worthy, T.H., Wood, J., Lee, M.S.Y., and A. Cooper. 2014. Ancient DNA reveals elephant birds and kiwi are sister taxa and clarifies ratite bird evolution. Science 344:898-900.

Caturday felid: Ceiling cat is for real! (and Maru lagniappe)

May 24, 2014 • 4:38 am

 

I wonder if I could turn this story into a lucrative book and movie, for it shows that Ceiling Cat is not a delusion, but is real. Move over, Todd Burpo!

One of my friends, an atheist, is a flight attendant for a large airline, and I gave her a button for her flight apron—one of the many lovely buttons made by reader Su. It has the famous picture of Ceiling Cat peering down from his hole in the heavens, along with the caption: “Ceiling Cat: Official Emissary” (see below).

But I’ll let her tell her story, sent in an email with the header “Excellent Ceiling Cat story”. [Note: flight attendants have a complicated jargon; “pax” means “passengers”, “wx” means “weather,” and so on.]

I have the BEST Ceiling Cat story! I wear the “Official Ceiling Cat Emissary” button you gave me on my apron at work. Pax often ask me about it and I tell them the Good News that CC created the universe and is always watching. Yesterday two ladies stopped me during the flight to ask about Him. They loved it! One of them said she had been an ICU nurse and they had a patient who was always talking about the cat in the ceiling who was watching over him. He referred to this cat as the Ceiling Cat. The nurses didn’t pay much attention to his rantings about Ceiling Cat, just assuming he was delusional.

One morning a nurse walked into the patient’s room—and there was a kitten lying across his chest! A mother cat had given birth to a litter in the ceiling above the patient (it had those removable ceiling tiles) and somehow the kitten made its way down to the patient’s bed. Ceiling Cat is REAL and watches over us!!!

Here is the apron that smoked out the real Ceiling Cat:

Ceiling Cat button

Note: The young lady in question has added a bonus: if you ever see this flight attendant wearing the button, tell her that you learned about Ceiling Cat from this website, and you’ll get a free drink!

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And. . . Maru became seven yesterday! How time flies, and as the years past, our boy seems to get tubbier than ever (Mugomogu, of course denies that he’s overweight).  Some of the recent highlights of la vie d’un matou are shown in his birthday clip, along with his new and much smaller feline compantion, Hana:

Saturday: Hili dialogue

May 24, 2014 • 3:30 am

Hili is trying to brain today:

A: What are you thinking about?
Hili: I’m trying to understand.
A: What are you trying to understand?
Hili: The vast expanse of what I do not understand.

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Ja: Nad czym myślisz?
Hili: Próbuję zrozumieć.
Ja: Co próbujesz zrozumieć?
Hili: Bezmiar tego, czego nie rozumiem.