Tuesday: Hili dialogue

October 14, 2014 • 2:33 am

Awww. . . Cyrus thanks the readers of Listy and WEIT for their concern about his health:

Hili: A black dog crossed my path.
A. But you’re not superstitious, are you?
Hili: Of course not. Anyway, it isn’t a black cat.
Cyrus: You should thank Jerry’s and our readers for me for all those good wishes.

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In Polish:
Hili: Czarny pies mi przebiegł drogę.
Ja: Nie wierzysz chyba w zabobony?
Hili: Oczywiście, że nie, przecież to nie czarny kot.
Cyrus: Lepiej podziękuj ode mnie czytelnikom Jerrego i naszym za wszystkie ciepłe słowa.

A “light” lunch with Josh Ozersky

October 13, 2014 • 10:45 am

First, be aware that there is no such thing as a light lunch with Josh Ozersky. I knew this well, and though we were scheduled to tour the Cantonese restaurants of Chinatown at 2 p.m., I didn’t eat a bite before that.

Josh is a well known food critic, having written for New York Magazine, Time Magazine, and now Esquire, where he’s their food critic.  He also has a Ph.D. in American history and, importantly, is intensely interested in evolution. That provides a fantastic symbiosis, for he gets to ask me about evolution and I get to ask him about restaurants. And, like me, he’s an apostate Jew, very fond of BBQ. Our tour, then was, to concentrate on the BBQ of New York’s Chinatown. I was in Josh’s hands.

Our first stop was Sun Say Gai on Canal and Baxter, full of both Chinese and Westerners chowing down on barbecued pork, duck, and an assortment of steamed and baked buns. Our first order was half a barbecued duck and a large dumpling filled with pork, egg, and other stuff:

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The dumpling halved, lateral view:

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With the half duck (superb; I shall dine on the remnants now) we had a side order of bbq suckling pig, with incomparably luscious crispy skin:

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Then it was on to the Big Wong, a nearby restaurant which, says Josh, has the best ribs in Chinatown. We accompanied the ribs with an order of salt-and-pepper squid:

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The ribs—fantastic.

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Josh met an old friend on the street, who took a really nice photo of the two of us, but sadly his friend pressed the “record” button and now we have about two seconds of a movie that I can’t show here.

On the way to procure dessert, we went by a store called “Evolution,” which really is about natural-history artifacts. They have fossils as well as mounted beetles and butterflies (which sadden me), and a passel of the old natural-history posters I love. I was photographed next to what I’ll look like in 30 years.

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After all that BBQ, we both felt like some dessert, and gelato was on our minds. According to Josh, the best gelato in New York happened to be nearby (he seems to know where every good place to eat is in the city): Grom, on Bleecker Street. We both had a medium cup of gelato; his was dark chocolate, mine hazelnut, with whipped cream (we shared, as the combination is great). But we couldn’t resist an order of fig sorbetto as well, a fantastic concoction tasting exactly of fresh, ripe figs. Here is Mr. Ozersky before we dug in over intense discussions about the origin of life and the evolution of sex.

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A new view of hell: “Conditional immortality”

October 13, 2014 • 8:49 am

An article in the October 10 New York Times,Tormented in the afterlife, but not forever,” shows us how theology “progresses.” After thinking about the issue for a few millennia, some theologians have decided, based on rumination and judicious Biblical exegesis, that Hell might not consist of eternal immolation after all.  Maybe you just fry for a while and are then extinguished:

[Minister and Christian publisher Edward] Fudge’s inquiry into the nature of damnation resulted in his seminal 1982 book, “The Fire That Consumes,” in which he argued that the suffering of the wicked in hell is finite, that after a time their souls are extinguished. This view, called “conditional immortality” or sometimes the more macabre “annihilationism,” is in direct opposition to the traditional Christian view that suffering in hell lasts forever.

Conditional immortality is not new — it has been proposed by Christian thinkers almost from the beginning — but it is having a moment in the (gentle, non-fiery) sun. Several new scholarly volumes about conditional immortality have been, or are about to be, published. In July, leading proponents of the theory gathered in Houston for Rethinking Hell, a conference in honor of Mr. Fudge. The group that produced the conference maintains a website, rethinkinghell.com, dedicated to its theology.

And in 2012, Mr. Fudge achieved the ultimate mark of American celebrity, the biopic. “Hell and Mr. Fudge” can be streamed in its entirety on the web, allowing one to see Mr. Fudge — played by Mackenzie Astin, best known for his childhood role on the 1980s TV series “The Facts of Life” — first as a boy, then in his college days, courting his wife, and, as an adult, doing the research that led him to renounce the traditional view of hell.

Click on the screenshot below to see the hilarious trailer for “Hell and Mr. Fudge” (you’ll have to pay to see the whole thing):

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What is obvious from this trailer, and the paragraph below, is that theological “progress”, at least in this case, came simply from pondering how unjust it seems for a loving God to torment someone forever for, say, homosexuality. And indeed it would be, so advocates of this Hell Lite simply decided that Hell wasn’t what it was cracked up to be.  And, of course, they could find Biblical support for their revised theology:

Advocates of conditional immortality say that their view reflects a common-sense reading of the Bible. They point to passages like Romans 6, where Paul says, “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” The “eternal life” of the saved is contrasted with the ultimate “death” of the unsaved. And in the Book of Revelation, Jesus refers to a “second death,” which these theologians say means the dying-again of the resurrected wicked. Their final, irreversible punishment may involve torment, but it will come to an end.

There is no limit to how these people’s ability to hang their “truths” on the thinnest string of words in scripture.  And then, like good theologians, they pretend their view of Hell was actually the traditional one all along!:

“I don’t think the traditional view became popular among Christians until the late second and early third centuries,” said Christopher M. Date, a software engineer and independent theologian who helped organize the recent conference. He believes that conditionalism was the rule for early thinkers like the second-century bishop Irenaeus, who wrote that God “imparts continuance for ever and ever on those who are saved,” while denying that same continuance to the unsaved.

And it really take theologians two millennia to realize this:

If you stop and think about it, some conditionalists say, theirs is a compassionate theology. Which is the kinder God, they ask, one who lets sinners suffer forever, or one who gives them, say, a few decades of hellfire, then administers “capital punishment” (to use Mr. Date’s matter-of-fact term)?

Well, the most compassionate God is one who doesn’t let anybody burn in hell (imagine being licked for flames for only a few minutes, much less a few decades) and then wipes them out forever. Is that compassionate? No forgiveness, no chance for rehabilitation, just some fire and then extinction?

Any hell that includes fire is incompatible with a compassionate god. And could these “compassionate” theologians tell us exactly how long God lets the miscreants suffer before he snuffs out their souls?

The article continues by saying that many “compassionate” Christians aren’t buying this: for them, hell is, as always, forever. As the piece notes, “Many Christian churches and organizations have statements of faith, which members must sign, attesting to a belief in eternal torture for the unsaved.” Yep, that’s the way to settle issues.  If science were done like this, we’d all sign statements saying that everything in the Origin of Species was literally true.

What a contrast with science, where such disputes are settled either with evidence or, if evidence is lacking, a statement that “we don’t know the answer.” Christians, however, settle the issue based on whatever seems most congenial to them, or what comports with the kind of God they imagine. In other words, theology advances by “wish thinking”: in this case, the realization that maybe a good God wouldn’t sent people to hell forever. But maybe he would. For centuries theologians have thought that, and you can support the “eternal hell” view with scripture, too.

But maybe before they start arguing about how long Hell lasts, they should look for evidence that there’s a hell in the first place. You’ll find such evidence only in the Bible, for no scorched sinners have returned to tell us of their travails. And then these revisionists might contemplate if a “good” God would even practice “conditional immortality.”

It is issues like this that makes me realize the total intellectual vacuity of theology, as well as how strongly it contrasts with science in the way it settles issues about reality.

h/t: Barry

 

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Heather Hastie on female genital mutilation: Is it Islamic?

October 13, 2014 • 6:57 am

While I’ve been in New York City, I’ve been running around having fun (a post-book treat for me), and yet readers have been sending me pieces about Reza Aslan, who apparently is on a media blitz to whitewash Islam after the sharp criticisms leveled by Bill Maher and Sam Harris. (One unctuous example can be found here.)

I am SO tired of Aslan’s apologetics about the faith, which never stand up to the merest scrutiny, and I’m equally tired of his self-promotion.  I’ve said enough about him for the time being, but reader Heather Hastie, who has her own website, decided to write a piece dissecting Aslan’s claim that female genital mutilation (FGM) is “not an Islamic practice.” (I believe Aslan originally touted it as an “African practice”.) And indeed, there are non-Muslim Africans who practice this barbaric mutilation, but it’s been largely coopted by Islam as a religiously-mandated mutilation. (See Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s book Infidel for how it was practiced on her.)

But I’ll let you read Heather’s analysis over at her website Heather’s Homilies. Her post, which well repays a read, is called “Reza Aslan: Lying for Islam on FGM.” Please leave comments on Heather’s website rather than here, as it’s her post. One brief excerpt:

In Sunni Islam, there are four schools of jurisprudence that express and opinion on the matter. Two of them, the Hanbali and Shafi’i schools, consider FGM obligatory, while the other two, the Hanafi and Maliki schools, recommend it. In addition, there have been several fatwas issued regarding FGM over the years, the majority of which favour it. (Fatwas are not compulsory, but devout Muslims consider them morally imperative.) For example, Fatwa 60314 includes statements that express the importance of FGM within Islam and dismiss the opinions of doctors.

There’s a copy of Fatwa 60314 to see at her post.

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Snowball, his friends, et moi

October 13, 2014 • 5:26 am

Reader Irena happens to own Snowball the Dancing Cockatoo which is, as far as I know, the only animal in history to be documented to actually move to the beat of music. Or, as Wikipedia puts it,

Snowball (hatched c. 1996) is a male Eleonora cockatoo, noted as being the first non-human animal conclusively demonstrated to be capable of beat induction— perceiving music and synchronizing his body movements to the beat (i.e. dancing).

To make a long story short, I autographed a copy of WEIT for Irena, and drew a very poor likeness of Snowball it, which you can see in the cartoon below.  The cartoon is drawn regularly by Su, another reader who has contributed several bits of artistry to this site, and she incorporated my drawing (and my book) into the latest strip.

Other regulars on the strip are a cockroach named Buddy and a lizard of some sort whose name I’ve forgotten.  But thanks for the plug!

Heeeree’s the gang, and I’ve put a video of Snowball dancing below the cartoon

176 Snowball Cartoon COYNE (1)Snowball dancing. I hope to visit him on a seminar trip next spring, though I’m told that Snowball is a roué, and dancing more readily when there are young ladies present:

Monday: Hili Dialogue

October 13, 2014 • 2:29 am

I’m heading back to Chicago this morning, but taking off for Bulgaria on Wednesday. As I said, writing will be light here until my return on Oct. 27.  Meanwhile in Dobrzyn, Hili, sitting on her jars, pretends innocence. (She’s grown into a three-jar cat.)

A: Does the window frame have your claw marks, or is it just my imagination?
Hili: It is your imagination, of course.

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In Polish:
Ja: Czy mnie się wydaje, czy to okno nosi ślady twoich pazurów?
Hili: Na pewno ci się tylko tak wydaje.