Do not expect deep thoughts or even controversy today; I’ve been working since 5:15 a.m. and just was interviewed by Neil Denny for the Little Atoms podcast (check the link for a passel of wonderful interviews), so I’m worn out. Neil is taking a four-week road trip from California to New York, interviewing scientists along the way (see his ongoing itinerary, with interviews, here). He’s just come from the Creation Museum, and has had chats with Genie Scott and Francisco Ayala in California; he’ll be writing a piece for the Guardian this weekend on the Creation Museum. He’s then headed to North Carolina, New York (where he’ll talk to participants at the World Science Festival), Boston, and Ithaca. What a great job: he gets paid to drive across America and chat with scientists!
The interview was almost completely about evolution and its evidence. Neil asked good questions and was a delightful chap. I’ll link to his evolution pieces in the Guardian and the interview when they appear.
At any rate, I feel like I should post something this afternoon, so here’s a U.S. News and World Report interview with Richard Leakey (via Matthew Cobb and Roger Highfield’s Twitter), in which the renowned anthropologist makes one palpably false and one dubious statement about the acceptance of evolution.
The palpably false statement is this:
Richard Leakey predicts skepticism over evolution will soon be history.
Not that the avowed atheist has any doubts himself.
Sometime in the next 15 to 30 years, the Kenyan-born paleoanthropologist expects scientific discoveries will have accelerated to the point that “even the skeptics can accept it.”
“If you get to the stage where you can persuade people on the evidence, that it’s solid, that we are all African, that color is superficial, that stages of development of culture are all interactive,” Leakey says, “then I think we have a chance of a world that will respond better to global challenges.”
Well, things haven’t moved much in 60 years in the U.S., so I’m not nearly so optimistic. And he’s even more wrong if he thinks the change in acceptance of evolution will come about because people will finally grasp the evidence. That evidence has been around for a gazillion years. No, the change will come when people aren’t resistant to evolution because of their faith. And that will take a few more decades than Leakey predicts.
I suspect Leakey doesn’t realize the full import of belief as an obstruction to accepting evolution; at least that’s what’s implied by a his further statements:
Leakey insists he has no animosity toward religion.
“If you tell me, well, people really need a faith … I understand that,” he said.
“I see no reason why you shouldn’t go through your life thinking if you’re a good citizen, you’ll get a better future in the afterlife ….”
Maybe he’d have a bit more animosity if he realized that religion—not lack of appreciation of the evidence—is the major impediment to what he sees as a life-or-death need for the world to accept evolution. And about that “seeing no reason why you shouldn’t think you’ll have a nice afterlife”, well, Dr. Leakey, what about the evidence? The evidence you have for human evolution in Africa isn’t there for an afterlife.
Leakey thinks that accepting evolution is the linchpin to a better world. Much as I’d like to believe that, I can’t share his sentiments:
Any hope for mankind’s future, he insists, rests on accepting existing scientific evidence of its past.
“If we’re spreading out across the world from centers like Europe and America that evolution is nonsense and science is nonsense, how do you combat new pathogens, how do you combat new strains of disease that are evolving in the environment?” he asked.
“If you don’t like the word evolution, I don’t care what you call it, but life has changed. You can lay out all the fossils that have been collected and establish lineages that even a fool could work up. So the question is why, how does this happen? It’s not covered by Genesis. There’s no explanation for this change going back 500 million years in any book I’ve read from the lips of any God.”
The people who are designing new antibiotics and pathogens already appreciate evolution; licking those problems doesn’t absolutely require that everyone else share that appreciation. I would love it if that happened, but I have no illusions that our world will suddenly change for the better if everyone accepted evolution. If a genie gave me a choice between two wishes: 1) everyone in the world suddenly accepts evolution in the way we scientists understand it; or 2) all religious belief would suddenly vanish from our planet, I know which one I’d pick. Choice number 2 would eliminate far more harm than #1, and has the added benefit that it will automatically produce acceptance of evolution as a byproduct.
I do love my job, and want to inspire people to understand why evolution is so marvelous—the true story of our origins, with fantastic organismal “design” the result of a blind, mindless process of gene competition—but I’m under no illusion that the battle to get it accepted will make a huge difference to our planet. What will make a bigger difference is to inculcate general habits of skepticism, rationality, and respect for truth—and a general disdain for superstition. Those, of course, are the habits of science.