Here’s a 43-minute interview of Benjamin Netanyahu by the Triggernometry dudes: Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster. It’s a short one: 43 minutes with about 4 minutes of commercials, and the schedule, given on the YouTube site, is at the bottom along with my comments.
Click on the screenshot below and then hit the “play” button.
Here’s the contents by introduction time (indented), and my comments (flush left):
00:00 Introduction
02:13 Benjamin Netanyahu’s Experience Of October 7th
06:05 What Do We Now Know That We Didn’t On October 7th?
08:11 How Did Your Intelligence Services Not See This Coming?
Netanyahu says this question will be answered by an upcoming investigation. There’s also another “lesson” he learned from October 7: that Israel “ultimately have to take on Iran itself”. I’m very curious about what the investigation will conclude.
12:57 Was Israel Allowing Qatar To Give Money To Hamas?
Netanyahu claims that the money was given by Israel to Gazans themselves, in order to “protect the population and feed and nurture them”, but I’m a bit dubious about this. How could they not know that the money would go mostly to Hamas, not ordinary Gazans? And with that dosh from Israel, Hamas built its huge network of terror tunnels. In other words, Israel was financing terrorism and must have known it. Here we have another conundrum, for Hamas swore in its first charter (1988) to not only wipe out Israel but kill all Jews. Are you telling me that Netanyahu didn’t think about this? His own country helped buttress Hamas terrorism in Gaza and now, he says, Israel will keep fighting until Hamas is eliminated.
16:14 Keir Starmer’s Comments And The UK Recognising Palestine As A State
Here Netanyahu says, correctly, that the recognition of Palestine as a state by European countries only encourages Hamas to continue their resistance. And that rewards Hamas with a de facto gift of a state whose rulers have already said they will to repeat the butchery of October 7 again and again. As he says, echoing Douglas Murray “[Those European states] recognize Israel’s right to defend itself as long as Israel doesn’t exercise that right.” He adds that those countries are weak, bowing to “radical minority protestors”.
19:36 Will Israel Be Trapped In A ‘Forever War’ Through Its Current Actions?
Here Kisen and Foster ask the obvious question: what about the amount of casualties and suffering of Palestinians? Further, they ask, “If Israel has achieved nearly all of its aims, won’t its actions continue to radicalize the Gazan population?”
Netanyahu responds again with an assertion that doesn’t quite ring true: he says that Gazans see hope and are many are telling Israel “don’t let up” until they eliminate Hamas. This seems like an exaggeration.
But the PM’s response to accusations of genocide is on the mark: “If we wanted to commit genocide, we could have done it in one afternoon.” He says that the ratio of civilians to combatants killed is 1.5/1, which of course readers here have contested. But I’d believe the IDF’s estimates over Hamas’s any day. To expect a lower ratio, says Netanyahu, is holding Israel “to an impossible standard”.
26:47 The Inflammatory Comments By Israeli Government Ministers
People are always quoting statements made in anger by Israeli government officials (or, more recently, by extreme right-wing politicians) to justify their charge of “genocide” against Israel. My own response is the same as above: there is no evidence I see that Israel is actually acting in a way that will wipe out all Gazans, terrorists or civilians. IDF soldiers are being killed in efforts to invade by killing as few civilians as possible, and why would they do that if they could simply bomb the country to smithereens at no risk to IDF soldiers? Netanyahu admits that Israeli officials have said things they “don’t mean”, but, nevertheless, most but not all of Israelis are united in the war aims
Kisen and Foster responds, “But those espousing the ‘kill ’em all’ ideas were in the government; so isn’t that ethnic cleansing?” [Not a direct quote!] Netanyahu says that ethnic cleansing has never been discussed in the war cabinet but admits that there are disagreements in the cabinet about how to conduct the wear. He adds that Israel’s policy is not to occupy Gaza. Rather, he wants a non-Israeli civilian government that doesn’t condone or launch terrorism (i.e., not Hamas or PA), and he does not want to see or send Israeli settlers in Gaza.
31:33 The Views Of The Younger Generations Towards Israel
Kisen and Foster mention that the biggest opposition to Israel’s attack on Gaza is among young people. Netanyahu responds that these young folk should look carefully at exactly whom they are supporting: terrorists, Iran, even those who tried to kill Trump. He adds that he does not want to see American boots on the ground to help Israel, though he approves of Trump’s “forceful support given in a judicious way.”
Finally, he says something that seems very true: “We are the litmus test for the survival of the West.” He claims, correctly, that many of the pro-Palestinian protestors have as their explicit or implicit aim the destruction of Western civilization. There is plenty of evidence that this is indeed the case.
35:01 What Does The Future Of Gaza Look Like?
Again the Triggernometry duo asks Netanyahu, “How can you have a peaceful eoexistence with radicalized people who hate you?” Netanyahu responds that after the war there should be a “program of deradicalization”. Such a program, he says, has worked elsewhere, as in Japan and Germany after WWII, and even with the Gulf States in the Middle East. The goal, he says, is to “reconstruct Gaza and deradicalize it.”
The problem, of course, is that after WWII the world was not allied against the U.S. for defeating Germany and Japan, as it is now against Israel defeating Hamas. Further, the U.N. (especially UNRWA) is firmly on the side of Hamas, and so “deradicalization” in Gaza would face enormous pushback from the rest of the world. Still, I think, it’s necessary, and for that they need good, moderate, and non-terrorist Palestinian leadership. Sadly, nobody seems willing to step up to the plate. Other Arab states already recognize the seeds of terrorism in Palestinians by refusing to let them settle in their countries.
Starmer and others who recognize a Palestinian state are, says the P.M., recognizing a state that would continue to foster terrorism. These countries are implicitly calling for the continuance of Islamist threats against Israel’s existence. Indeed, one might almost think they wouldn’t be disturbed if Israel disappeared.
37:15 What’s The One Thing We’re Not Talking About In Western Civilisation That We Should Be?
Netanyahu’s answer is “Three things: history, history, and history” As he says, “If you don’t know how we got here, you don’t know how to proceed from here.” One of these bits of knowledge is to take threats of annihiliation, like those in Hamas’s first charter, seriously. Another is that if a state like Iran says it might use nuclear weapons, do not ignore that. That in fact is why Israel and the U.S. united to go after Iran’s nukes in June of this year.
A few final comments. I am getting a lot of anti-Israel emails (and a few comments on the site) that parrot the Hamas line of genocide and call for Israel to withdraw from Gaza, apparently leaving Hamas in power. Some of the emails and comments are uncivil. To those who want Israel out of Gaza now, leaving Hamas to resume power, I ask you to tell us, “What would you do if you were in Netanyahu’s place now?” That is, how would you conduct the war if you controlled the IDF?
Almost nobody ever answers that one, save one commenter who told me that Israel should withdraw from Gaza and build a huge, high, and impenetrable wall on the border between Gaza and Israel! The problems with that are clear, of course. Rockets do not respect high walls, and Hamas will begin firing rockets again if it resumes power. Further, you remember what happened when Israel built walls along parts of the West Bank to stop terrorists from entering. Those walls worked very well, but Israel was accused of furthering “apartheid” by building them. The fact is that nothing Israel does in this war will ever be praised, much less be free from worldwide condemnation.
Finally, I ask readers to avoid accusing Israel of deliberately committing genocide against the Palestinians, much less saying Israel is an “apartheid state”. Those are stupid and obtuse assertions, and obtuseness (defined by Brittanica as “stupid or unintelligent: not able to think clearly or to understand what is obvious or simple”) is banned by Da Roolz. In fact, it might behoove you, especially if you’re a new reader, to read “Da Roolz”, as many seem to have forgotten them.
That said, feel free to go after Netanyahu–or support some of what he said.




