16 thoughts on “Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ language

  1. The email coming from Jesus & Mo today included this text:

    “7.178 basically. Mo inadvertently summarises the entire Koran in six words in the last panel.”

    What’s the significance of 7.178? Is that some sort of verse reference to the Koran?

    1. Yes it is a passage in the Koran. To be precise…
      7:178 – He whom Allah leadeth, he indeed is led aright, while he whom Allah sendeth astray – they indeed are losers.

      I found this in the Skeptic’s Bible online. It has the Bible, Koran and the Mormon book. There are a lot of interesting notes and asides by an atheist. Over the years I have found it handy.

        1. I have copied a few preceding passages from Koran to put this in context.

          Koran 3:139 – Faint not nor grieve, for ye will overcome them if ye are (indeed) believers.

          From notes: (3:139) Believers always defeat unbelievers.
          “Ye will overcome them if ye are (indeed) believers.”
          (Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his ‘letter to America’ as a justification for the 11 September 2001 attacks.)

          Koran 3:140 – If ye have received a blow, the (disbelieving) people have received a blow the like thereof. These are (only) the vicissitudes which We cause to follow one another for mankind, to the end that Allah may know those who believe and may choose witnesses from among you; and Allah loveth not wrong-doers.

          3:141 And that Allah may prove those who believe, and may blight the disbelievers.

          3:142 Or deemed ye that ye would enter paradise while yet Allah knoweth not those of you who really strive, nor knoweth those (of you) who are steadfast ?

          1. Well, 3.142 isn’t exactly \pi , the famous number, all about perfectly round things. But anyway this tells me that mathematicians must be very prominent among the steadfast strivers.

            Some mathematicians I know have moved in the direction of themselves becoming perfectly round, but whether they have eaten too much pi is a different topic.

              1. Detroit-style pizza is square. There are pizza places popping up here and there featuring that style. I tried it once and wasn’t that impressed. The main feature seems to be cheese running to the edge of the pan and slightly charred at the point of contact.

              2. If your pizza joint was near the math department, and if you could make pizzas in the shape of the surface of a Moebius band, then you might become a billionaire–but maybe only if it had a big program in financial mathematics success, via training in algebraic and differential geometry and algebraic topology.

                In a related more serious vain of factual up-to-date info, there is a very famous mathematician named Jim Simons, famed partly for the Chern-Simons theory, became Stonybrook math chair and turned it into an academic powerhouse. Then he retired and took up really doing math-based money-making with his own hedge fund. He was one of the 6 or 7 hedge fund owners/multimillionaires dragged up for showtime-for-electors interrogation by a US Senate committee, just after the 2008 bust. He has been terrific as a supporter of pure mathematics, and fundamental particle and cosmological physics. I get a regular email feed from the Simons Foundation that I’m sure some of you know about.

                Whether he was a pizza delivery person as a teen is the burning question, to veer away from the serious.

              3. I’m vain about what a good speller I used to be; but “vain” should have been ‘vein’ further up.

                My arteries are good though.

                Anyway, one of my friend John Baker’s jokes was: “The older I get, the better I used to be.”

      1. Interesting. And not significantly different from Romans 9.21 “Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?”

        It is impossible to overstate how much I abominate losers and dishonorable types who say their infinite cosmic sadist creates beings to populate his eternal ovens.

        Yes, the Skeptic’s Bible online is quite a useful reference.

  2. To add on to what Glenda Palmer said, many translations of the Qur’an do indeed use the English word “losers” when talking about non-believers. Using the word “losers” is not the comic being cheeky, English translations of the Qur’an really do say that.

    1. Well, they wouldn’t be one up, but they’d be 0.14159…… up! Maybe I could be persuaded to bow down before the 0.14159…. part of a god.

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