I’ll present a snippet from George Will’s latest column in the Washington Post, “Cheering Hamas on campus, too uneducated to grasp how grotesque that is,” and put it up for discussion.
The doomed but life-affirming Treblinka uprising came in August 1943. This was less than five years before the creation of the necessary response to Treblinka: Israel. Today, the desire of Hamas to complete the Holocaust is applauded by moral cretins in academic cocoons (some Princetonians chanted “Globalize the intifada”), too uneducated to understand the grotesque pedigree of their enthusiasm.
When photographers from Mathew Brady’s New York studio produced the 1862 exhibit “The Dead of Antietam,” the New York Times said it brought home war’s “terrible reality and earnestness.” During World War I, however, no photo of a corpse appeared in a British, French or German newspaper, and not until 1943 did Life magazine create controversy by publishing a photo of dead U.S. troops.
Since Vietnam, graphic journalism has given us living room wars, but broadcast snippets of combat have drained war of its power to shock. Englund’s more than 400 pages of words, mere words, excavated from experiences 81 Novembers ago, convey war’s “terrible earnestness.”
Today, academic ethicists at a safe distance are instructing Israel to be “proportionate” in its response to what was done on Oct. 7. Perhaps the students and faculty exhilarated by Hamas need to see pictures of what was done. So, give every U.S. college and university the 46-minute video that Israel compiled from Hamas cameras and other sources, showing the sadists inflicting their carnage. Challenge the schools to screen it. This would be disturbingly educational, but the schools, many of them uneasy about such things, should do it anyway.
Should they? Is proportionality something to be considered when Hamas uses Palestinians as human shields, upping the deaths of Gazan civilians? (There’s little doubt that Hamas wants Palestinian civilians to die, and does a lot to achieve that end.) If proportionality is all important, how will Israel erase Hamas? Should there be a ceasefire? In my view, a ceasefire surely means the persistence of Hamas and their terrorism (remember, they’ve promised to continue attacks like that of October 7), as well as the weakening of Israel as other terrorist groups like Hezbollah and countries like Iran lick their chops while gazing at an Israel they see as weak?
Your turn. Feel free to contradict me, but please do so politely, as name-callers and rude people won’t get their posts displayed. And be polite to any reader whose views you disagree with.
h/t: Debra (for the link)
Yes, the 46 minute video should be shown on campuses and elsewhere.
For those that want a ceasefire, they need to convince Hamas to surrender and give up all arms. Otherwise wait until the IDF eliminates Hamas.
Hamas leaders should be charged with war crimes by the UN and other international bodies for their actions of October 7 and for hiding like cowards by using Palestinians as shields.
The international community should denounce and go after the terrorists of Hamas, Hezbollah, Yemen terrorists, Islamic Jihad, etc. Iran should be further restricted across the world.
Netanyahu should be eliminated from the Israeli government. Same goes for the leadership of the corrupt Palestinian authority.
– no ceasefire
– IDF already “proportional”
Proportionality is a plea, in this case, for Israel to let Hamas off the hook. People who do not want Hamas crippled or destroyed, and who do want Israel to destroyed, are arguing that Israel should just make a punitive attack, and leave it at that. Hamas, though, has shown and said that it does not intend to stop attacks in the future. Israel has shown great forbearance over the years as Hamas has launched missiles at her. Israel could have done this before now. As a sovereign nation, Israel’s only option is to try to destroy Hamas. What Hamas did on October 7 Israel is rightly treating as an act of war. What Israel is going is harsh, but not wrong.
In the arguments for proportionality, I can’t help but feel that many people are thinking like this is abstractly similar to a spat on Twitter and they can’t fathom activities that are different from that model. So apparently Israel needs to do a lot of virtue signaling first in order to become popular. Start with public pleas to stop being attacked and can we please have the hostages back? Then it should gravitate to please stop shooting rockets at us. We really mean it. Then See??? We are so nice while those guys are being just so mean! [Check public opinions polls. How many Likes are we getting? Are there enough crying eyes emojis?] Guess we gotta start fighting back. But only where there aren’t civilians [more watching of public opinion polls. But now Hamas has dug in more, having been given a lot of time].
In today’s word of “asymmetric warfare” (notably terrorists vs. states) I think the concept of “proportionality” is close to meaningless. In this case, other than in direct ground combat, Hamas can only use tactics such as they used on October 7, while Israel almost necessarily has to reply with conventional forces. However, we are seeing the erosion of international support for Israel, which may prove to be costly to its war efforts. Furthermore, I remain deeply pessimistic that Israel will be able to “eliminate” Hamas, and thus the price they are paying internationally may ultimately prove more costly than the results. The only path forward I see is some kind of cessation of hostilities thaPt can lead to new leadership in both Israel and Palestine (both the West Bank and Gaza), with perhaps some Arab-led security force in control in Gaza. Then perhaps, progress can be made towards a real two state solution. I don’t see this happening any time soon, but neither do I see any long term alternatives. As I said in an earlier comment, it may be Israels least worst option.
I can’t think of any Arab security force that would either want to touch the problem with a 10 foot pole, or who could be trusted to not actually help Hamas claw its way back.
Distribute the footage widely.
{unless there is a quick and pragmatic path to extracting them without halting the death of Hamas …} let the remaining hostages be thought of as already dead, and thus release all constraint. They died for their country. Resume the annihilation of Hamas with a cool vengeance and single-minded purpose. This radical position will show the world Israel means business, the business of fair survival.
USA STOP GIVING FUNDS TO IRAN!
Biden and US State Department stop undermining Israel’s high moral purpose.
One striking feature of the media’s useful idiocy is the treatment of Hizballah, also known as the Party of God. Here is a strictly Lebanese (not “Palestinian”) outfit that regularly mounts cross-border artillery attacks on Israel—and the media report these attacks not as aggression, but rather as a natural phenomenon, like the weather. In the
same vein, I wonder what the media would make of calls for the US to apologize for its offense of not declaring unilateral cease-fire with Japan on December 8, 1941.
The calls for a ceasefire seem to me to be disingenuous posturing. Or perhaps propaganda. They seem to deny the realities. The problem here is not Israel, it’s Hamas. Applying some pressure to convince Israel to take reasonable care to avoid civilian casualties is one thing, telling them they need to sit back and allow terrorists to slaughter their citizens and calling for them to be cleansed from the river to the sea are something else. Something quite disgusting. I can only hope that most of the students voicing such sentiments are doing so because they are stupid rather than evil.
Seems to me that for the UN to be an organization that actually lived up to its charter it would organize assets from its member nations as necessary to eliminate Hamas and all other terrorist organizations in the conflict areas, provide all necessary aid to Palestinians in the conflict areas and mediate a peaceful agreement, including providing any resources as necessary to address the security and economic concerns of all parties.
But that UN doesn’t exist. Israel must provide for its own security because nobody else is going to.
I am an atheist, and a non-practitioner of Judaism, but if anti-semitism returns in a big way, I know (or hope) that Israel will have a home for me as a Jew. I don’t support extreme right wing governments coalescing with religious extremists but still, Israel is there for me and I can’t disown that. As a 16 year old I was a summer guest at a kibbutz which allowed me to experience the most democratic society I have ever known. The terrorists also killed many kibbutz residents, practitioners of one of the closest thing to a socialist utopia that humans have ever achieved, a model even for how Palestinians could live if they wanted to, on their 2,000 sq mile land. The colonial powers probably did mess up the carving of the Middle East but that is hardly the fault of people now living in Israel. Our own youth, as all youth, fall for causes that reek of injustice and excess (which is admirable), but often are misguided like those that protested in Minneapolis against a very tragic death that likely had nothing to do with an overzealous racist cop – today the crime rate in the city of those protesters is three times what it was before half the cops retired. Yes, students in high school and college need to see evidence of Hamas terrorist atrocity, and Hamas oppression of Palestinian opposition to it if students value democracy. They need to learn how emotion affects thinking, the biases that feed extremism and black and white thinking, what emotional needs are being met by their own felt need to protest as those occur in a social context, their right to protest, what does a Free Palestine really mean, how bias and prejudice can make peace impossible, and reasoning skills in general.
“War is cruelty. There’s no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.”― William Tecumseh Sherman
His point being that getting it finished ASAP is the best and least destructive approach. Prolonging it, including by “making it nicer”, only will make it worse and more destructive in the long run.
I don’t think leaving Hamas in charge of Gaza is a viable or peaceful solution. It won’t resolve anything.
The best unilateral cease-fires are the ones that snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, as intended. Imagine Wade McClusky at Midway leading his squadron on its dive that would, in seconds, turn three Japanese carriers into gasoline infernos — they got the fourth the next day — instead getting the radio call to abort because the President had declared a unilateral cease-fire. When the four intact Japanese carriers then sank all three American carriers, as the battle up to that moment looked certain to do, historians would be debating “what-if” those dive bombers had dropped their bombs. But they would be debating in Japanese. (Not really, but you get my drift.)
I am in total support of the colleges showing the video of the massacre and torture by Hamas of Israeli citizens. I am already hearing so much denialism that this massacre and that rapes occurred. Most of these protesters know nothing about what they are shouting in a crowd. They don’t know what river and what sea.
The ignorance is coming at a great cost to Jews.
No ceasefire. Israel tried that already.
I can’t find the 46-minute video. Am I missing something about its availability?
It’s not available to the general public, only to journalists when shown in Israel. It was shown at Harvard when I was visiting Cambridge, and the general public was admitted (I believe it was introduced by the Israeli ambassador), but I missed it. I would have gone, too, horrible as it is.
On NPR this morning they interviewed a representative from UNHCR who said that a higher proportion of child casualties in Gaza than anywhere else. But neither the representative, not the interviewer (Steve Inskeep) discussed in how many other wars combatants use children as human shields. He said that Ukrainian child casualties are much lower, but Ukrainian soldiers do not hide in schools and hospitals. You cannot compare to other conflicts because only Hamas uses human shields to such an extent.
Indeed, and if Hamas is shocked by the high proportion of child casualties (they’re not) they can disarm and surrender.
Things to consider:
-Children are those <18yo. How many of these are 14-17yo combatants (I am confident a considerable fraction).
-Hamas doesn’t distinguish civilians from combatants and they have an incentive to inflate numbers (who will check the graves?).
-Birth rate in Palestine is three times higher than Ukraine.
-It’s an urban war which is much harder on civilians, the Russian invasion isn’t mostly.
My initial reaction is to release the video to campuses. Let the ignorant who babble about “this is what de-colonization looks like” see what an actual terrorist massacre looks like.
And no trigger warnings.
However, I’m not sure this would create the reaction I expect (shock, horror, repentance.) Given the relentless nature of the Critical Social Justice propaganda spoon fed to them for years, students might just double down (“oh yeah? Israel does worse in secret.”) It could fuel a desire for more carnage in a population which watched mad slasher films while still in grade school. A British pundit managed to watch the film and hem and haw that he didn’t actually see any rapes, so we’re still up in the air on that one.
I don’t know. My predictive abilities for what young people are likely to do is still based on intuitions about me and my peers from almost 50 years ago. But I suspect the film — or bits of it — will eventually be leaked. Would introducing it in an academic surrounding complete with reassuring authorities well-versed in explaining why these Jewish victims were settlers taking land from an oppressed indigenous peoples be better or worse than individual adolescents watching it surreptitiously in private?
I spent 25 years in Israel as field archaeologist (1978-2003). I had a lot of Jewish and Islamic friends. I am horrified at what is happening now. I’ m 82 year sold now and wish I had the biblical of wisdom of Solomon.. But I don’t!
Good comments.
I also support showing the video and no ceasefire unless Hamas surrenders and disarms or is destroyed. Stop with the double standards. No other country with means would put up with a neighbor who displayed the depravity and barbarity of Hamas on 10/7.
Indeed. And that’s before taking into account Hamas’ threats to repeat the atrocities over and over again.
Agreed, but will Hamas ever surrender, be defeated, disarmed or destroyed? My feeling is that Israel is currently creating more Hamas members than it is killing.
Yes, and I’m sure creating more Hamas members (or just radicalized, pissed-off Muslims) is always a part of the “plan”. That’s why they’re ok with abusing their own civilian population by stealing money/aid and using them as canon fodder. Seems like there are no good choices, just differing levels of bad choices that must be made; talk about being caught between Scylla and Charybdis…
Precisely. The only solution that I see is for the Palestinian population to turn against Hamas, the PLO et al, and find leaders who will negotiate a long-term peace accord with Israel. Fat chance.
That’s what everyone says, Douglas, but maybe not. The number of Hamas members and sympathizers is already maxed out, has been for decades: the entire civilian population of Gaza. Killing more of them doesn’t further radicalize any of the survivors, it just reduces the absolute number of gunmen. The goal in counter-insurgency is to engender a sense that the cause is futile and not worth fighting. That requires oppression first, to incentivize attitude change. Devote your efforts to something productive. Teach your children better. Learn to encourage investment and stop marrying your cousins. Discover that a world with Jews in it isn’t so bad. We did this in North America with the indigenous people who wanted to cleanse the land of us, too.* They fought us viciously and skillfully, tooth and nail in various parts until the mid-1800s. Now the ones who haven’t assimilated just demonstrate, smuggle, and vandalize work camps. They’ve become manageable despite resenting us because their cause became futile, more so on your patch than ours.
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* Not drawing a parallel that would appear to call Jews colonizers in Palestine. They are actually indigenous of course.
You raise some interesting points, but paint with a fairly broad brush.
For example, from Reuters: “Fifty-two percent of Gazans and 85% of West Bank respondents – or 72% of Palestinian respondents overall – voiced satisfaction with the role of Hamas in the war. Only 11% of Palestinian voiced satisfaction with PA President Mahmoud Abbas.” And these numbers of support for Hamas have risen dramatically since the beginning of the war.
Re indigenous peoples, this from Matthew Ginden, a Jewish journalist writing in the newsletter Forward: “Jewish indigeneity and indigenous rights in Israel must be respected for the international idea of Indigenous Rights to make any sense at all. Yet the Palestinian claim to indigeneity should not be dismissed either. Although it cannot be based on fictitious ties to the ancient Philistines or Canaanites, it can be based on 20th-century history. The Palestinians are now a real people, whether some like it or not, and every effort to aid them in gaining self-determination and a home should be pursued. They must be embraced as part of Israeli, and Jewish, history, and their claims to their Palestinian land, culture, and history fully acknowledged. The Jews are no longer the only living people indigenous to the Israeli/Palestinian territories.” I would consider Bedouins to be indigenous as well.
If the Palestinians do not accept some sort of two state solution, their fate could parallel that of the indigenous Americans.
Just to be clear, Douglas, I never adduce indigeneity as a basis for any national claims. We drove the indigenous people off “their” land as we turned our footholds into nation-states and we aren’t giving it back. They would have driven us into the sea if they could have, and if they had realized there were going to be more of us coming every year and our firearms could reload faster as time went on, they might have tried harder while they yet outnumbered us. There is nothing special about being indigenous to a region. I only mentioned it so as not to make the historical error of appearing to state that Jews weren’t indigenous to Palestine. If the Palestinians are, too, that neither enhances nor diminishes the claims of the Jews.
As Douglas Murray says, if the founding indigenous peoples of Europe — that’s white people — ever decide they want to get rid of colonizers, “Welcome to Hell.” So indigeneity is baseless as a free-standing support for ethnic cleansing by either side.
Lots of “peoples” don’t have states. There is no reason why the Palestinian “people” are entitled to be given one. The only reason they “need” a state is that no Arab/Muslim country will let them move into theirs. But Israel can’t let them have one. Therefore they have to fight for it, just like Israel does. Since that fight is irreconcilable with Israel’s existence, Israel has no choice but to oppress them until they squeak, or until it can’t anymore. Nothing is forever, although I’m betting long on the Jewish people.
So in the end we come back to agreeing with each other. That must mean the end result in Palestine is like a state function in physics. No matter what route the system takes to get there, the values of the state functions are the same.
LM, as you say, in the end we agree
This thread seems to be a verifiable critique of the number of deaths in Gaza reported by Hamas and uncritically accepted by the UN and the news media. If true, the numbers of women and children killed have inexplicably leapt from one day to the next, whilst the deaths of men of fighting age are unbelievably low: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1731753062622982386.html
This just came through on my NYT news feed:
U.S. urges Israel to scale back ground war in Gaza by year’s end
The Biden administration wants Israel to adopt a more precise strategy in its war against Hamas, using smaller elite forces to rescue hostages, kill Hamas leaders and destroy tunnels, senior U.S. officials said.
That’s all the information I have since I’m not a subscriber. This looks like advice that’s “easier said than done.”
You will be able to read the article if you copy and paste the article’s web address into the box at https://archive.ph/
Thanks, Jez
Translation: “Joe urges Israel to scale back far enough that his out-of-control left wing won’t excoriate him and the Democratic Party as the election year begins.”
A bit like belling the cat.
I would hesitate, at these charged times, to show videos like the above to young people who come in with support for Hamas. What if some start laughing and cheering? Honestly, that is a real concern.
Then the video of them laughing and cheering should be shown starting the next day as the second feature of the presentation.
I think this IS a serious concern. History has made it only too clear that it is possible for people to become desensitized to horror of all types, particularly if they have a narrative which characterizes the victims as evil or subhuman or both. I would NOT readily share these videos with young people in general, particularly ones who are primed to dehumanize the victims.
Show the video. But be prepared for an onslaught of lies claiming that the video was fabricated by Israel to justify the genocide of the Palestinians. Never underestimate the creativity of the antisemite. Making the video widely available is a risk.
The sad reality is that Hamas is using its own civilians as weapons of war, placing them at the front lines as expendable targets. Hamas can stop the killing instantly by surrendering and releasing the hostages. Until that happens or until Hamas is destroyed, Israel has no choice but to stay on its current path.
Even after Israel destroys Hamas, the world is not done. Today CNN is reporting the arrest of four Hamas-affiliated terrorists in Germany—a manifestation of the global Hamas intifada that is already in progress. (See here: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/14/europe/hamas-suspects-arrested-terror-plot-europe-intl/index.html). The world needs to wake up to the danger and eradicate it. The attack on Israel is just the tip of the spear.
Here I am going to draw parallels with Ukraine especially now as of this morning the EU has has opened membership talks with Ukraine and Moldova.
It has been said by several people including a retired U.S. lieutenant general Ben Hodges “Russia is an existential threat to U.S. and Europe.” He is now an advisor to NATO.
My point here is just as Russia is a threat so is Hamas, if they can get away with walking over the only democratic nation in the middle east with jihad, the next stop is the west, Hamas will have the freedom to instigate and facilitate.
I draw on the Syrian conflict, Arab on Arab, Assad gassed his own, bombed and still is, displaced some 5 million of his people who fled to Europe and hardly a word or protest said since by these individuals about the killing of civilians.
Google:
Jihad – from Reliance of the Traveller (Shaji’ite Islamic Law), means to “war against non- Muslims … to establish the religion (of Islam).”
Also understood as “just war” or “holy war.”
If that is their true aim (Hamas) they have shown it to be so, Israeli’s like the Ukrainians are doing the west a “bloody” service, that our way of life, the rules which we try to uphold is of high value and we stand and deliver.
It is NOT perfect, far from it, but by all metrics that I can think of, it is a better way forward for advancing civil political discourse on how nations should be behaving towards each other.
As someone who despises authoritarian rulers such as Putin, the pretender but no less dangerous loonie tRump, or religious authoritarian states like Iran’s myopic old men these I consider not healthy alternatives for human and planetary well being.
As I see it, it’s a waste and misery production line and is the lot of the Palestinians and Israeli’s, it is a needless tragedy, but until Hamas are gone nothing else seems possible for either. By that I mean it will be a start to an alternative but what that looks like is any ones guess.
I just finished Englund’s The Beauty and the Sorrow. A ceasefire would have been the right thing to do in THAT war.
But Hamàs has made it impossible for that to be considered after saying they plan to continue their bloodthirsty actions.
To those who still want Israel to stop their response after being attacked I say stick your ceasefire where the sun don’t shine.
If it isn’t obvious I would like to say I agree with the other commenters.
Regarding disputes about proportionality, the core issue is the below paragraph from the Protocols to the Geneva Convention:
5. Among others, the following types of attacks are to be considered as indiscriminate:
(b) an attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/api-1977/article-51
Best of luck to all who wish to find any agreement regarding “excessive.” Doing so would be nearly as difficult as anticipating the “concrete” military advantage of eliminating enemy leadership who can be replaced with relative ease while Hamas still has able-bodied men with relevant experience. That, of course, suggests another line of military options. While any men (and future men) with sufficient military capability and will to resist remain alive, then the problem is not settled. There is a reason why ancient warfare could be brutal, and it wasn’t just because of gratuitous violence and the face-to-face nature of it all.
Short of a total war that eliminates an adversary’s capability and shatters his will—and the will of those who love him—then how do you resolve such conflicts as we currently see? Hearts and minds? Really? Is it possible that the understandable revulsion post-World War I and II, along with attempts through law and public opinion to “civilize” war, have made certain forms of warfare largely unwinnable for one side—and thus more likely? “Yes, but any war the prosecution of which favors the oppressed and hinders the Oppressor is a war to be welcome.” No adherence to international law, no demonstrations of restraint, no mercy shown on the battlefield will ever win over such ideological opponents.
Simultaneous with Israel’s war, we have our own metaphorical one to wage. The battlefields of Gaza, campus, and beyond have merged. What started as an insurgency has taken on a more conventional form as the metaphorical militants gained power in many institutions. We once saw them as family; sometimes we still do. This filial connection at first left many of us blind to their attacks, excusing of their tactics—their hearts were in the right place, we said. Now that the blinders have fallen off, many of us still exercise considerable restraint, still exhibit a general unwillingness to fight, even as they continue to coerce our support in a cause detrimental to us all. Rest assured they will exercise no such restraint once they complete their run for power. What to do? It’s a damned difficult dilemma, but the survival of core elements of our intellectual and free political culture might be as much at stake as is the survival of Israel. To borrow another metaphor, how do we ensure that the cure is not worse than the disease? How do we stay true to what we value without ultimately losing what we value in the process? Both here and in Israel.
Beautifully said, Doug.
The limitations on war are aspirational provisions, intended more to give each side an incentive to be moderate, lest the other side retaliate and escalate, especially in the treatment of prisoners of war. Once the bad guys have already murdered civilians and announce they will continue to do so to their last dying breath, and will school their children to follow in their flip-flops, there is no reason, really, not to kill theirs with abandon. That Israel doesn’t is either an indication of their fundamental morality or is just an indication that they haven’t been pushed to the wall, yet, where they, too, will find it necessary, as the Allies did during the Second World War in both theatres. Incinerating civilians, beyond the pale in the 1920s and an atrocity in 1940, became official military strategy by 1943 and continues as the principle of nuclear deterrence to this day. That is the fundamental moral justification for a total siege of Gaza that spares Israeli soldiers. The alternative if Hamas or the rest of the Saracens threaten to over-run and rape Tel Aviv is not unthinkable. We only like to think it is in our political pronouncements and lines in the sand.
“The battlefields of Ghaza, campus, and beyond have merged”.. add to that the thousands of unvetted peoples from all over the world pouring across our borders daily. Crossers utter the magic word, “asylum” and they’re in. I live in the city of Tucson (Pima County, Arizona) where concerns of who might be slipping through our porous borders loom large.
As for whether or not to show Israel’s films? Supporters of Hamas believe that October 7th was what Israel deserved! The films would incite them; not win them over.
Both reassured and disappointed reading the comments that all seemingly agree with the Israeli response and that the video should be shown (both are my position also).
Reassured as great to find there’s still sanity in the world, but disappointed because I had hoped to hear some argument, by somebody smart (Jerry’s usual audience), taking the other side. Genuinely staggers me much of the anti-Israel sentiment.
There was a ceasefire, it was on October 6th.
Hamas need to, at the very least, return all hostages before there can be any talk of ceasefire.
Hamas should surrender unconditionally, but they won’t because they’re cowards.
There can be no peace whilst Hamas remains.
I think the students participating in the pro-Hamas demonstrations should be required to watch the video, and prepare a detailed report on what they see, as a condition of remaining at the university.
The video, and some segments that were considered too graphic for the edited version, or just too disrespectful to the victims for public viewing, are filtering through IDF and military members, and I have seen much of it.
My opinion is that even people who grew up with film and video game violence will be shaken by seeing it. There is not really anything to compare it to. The closest thing might be the film of those who chose to jump on 9/11. Even then, you never see the faces or the landings. They would need to show all that, then ISIS members at the base of the towers dancing in the blood and throwing body parts at each other.
Perhaps part of the problem is that westerners who have only experienced safety and comfort are just unable to process the idea that there can be people so very savage, and gleeful in that savagery. It is unthinkable, so they deny it.
Residents of German towns and villages near concentration camps were rounded up by Allied soldiers in 1945 and made to walk through the camps to see what had been done in their name, so they could never deny it again. Prisoners of war were made to watch films of what had been discovered. Students supporting Hamas on campus should be made to do the same.
On YouTube Chris Cuomo (News Nation) after watching the video thinks everyone should see it.
After people have watched the video you can see the effect it made in their faces.
If Israel would act proportional to the actions of Hamas it would try to kill and rape as many innocent civilians as possible.
Yes, the film should be offered to students. I doubt there would be many takers though, and I can envision a scenario where the screens and whiteboards would be ripped down or otherwise vandalized from coast to furious coast followed by accusations that the film was scripted, filmed, and directed by Mossad.
Their minds are made up. It is going to take a very BIG and PERSONAL event to snap them out of their certitude. (It’s coming.)