Elizabeth Warren endorses Biden

I don’t know what kept Elizabeth Warren from endorsing Joe Biden until now (she was once my favorite candidate), but it doesn’t much matter. After all, within just a few days Uncle Joe has been endorsed by Bernie Sanders, Barack Obama, and now Warren. That’s a lot of Democratic heft.

Here’s her 3 minute and 43 second endorsement. It’s an unstinting and heartwarming speech, and plaudits to Warren for giving it. (It must have stung for anybody who lost to endorse the winner.) I’m torn between hoping that she continues on as a superb Senator, and hoping that Biden gives her a good position in his administration if he wins—or even the vice-presidential slot now, though I don’t think she’d take it. As VP, Warren would be in a good position to run in 2024, when Biden will be pretty old.

h/t: Ken

74 Comments

  1. Karen Fierman
    Posted April 15, 2020 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Mayor Pete also endorsed Biden. Obviously, most of us would rather vote for Attila the Hun than for Big Orange. The endorsements have clearly been orchestrated. As that recent LA Time article said: I’m voting for Joe Biden in November. And it will kill me.

    • JezGrove
      Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

      Well, Attila was more sophisticated – and he definitely didn’t have heel spurs! Though he did pose a threat to Western civilization, so he had something in common with tRump.

    • Posted April 16, 2020 at 5:09 am | Permalink

      I’m voting for Joe Biden in November. And it will kill me.

      Yes, but not literally. The alternative may literally kill you.

  2. Posted April 15, 2020 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Maybe she was coordinating with Bernie? Perhaps both were wondering if the latest accusation against Biden would stick, or if he would otherwise self-destruct. “I am a gaffe machine” — actual Biden quote. Now that Sanders is out, it was time to endorse Biden. (Why she waited until after Obama, I don’t know, maybe it’s a sign of respect for Obama.)

    • Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

      On the “self destruct”, it’s going to be hard for any presidential candidate to social-distance in an election year, and a high percentage of 77-yr-olds get it bad.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

        The fella Biden’s running against is pushing 74, overweight, has a crap diet, shuns exercise like it’s the pla … well you know, and can be seen daily on live tv violating social-distancing norms — so the picture of low-risk and fine-fettle, he ain’t.

        • Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

          There’s always hoping, isn’t there?

        • JezGrove
          Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

          The BBC’s North American correspondent says he had to have his temperature checked twice on the way in to a recent White House press conference, so it looks like tRump isn’t taking too many risks when it comes to himself. (A slightly different situation when it comes to the rest of the population, obviously.) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52276004

        • Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

          Trump is probably fairly safe right now. No more foreign potentates visiting the White House, no more Mar-a-Lago wing dings, no golfing. Just wait until he “opens up the country” and starts holding his rallies. Then he’ll be vulnerable.

          • John Conoboy
            Posted April 15, 2020 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

            He will probably take all kinds of precautions at rallies to protect him, but not his cult members. They will get sick and many will die, but they will still adore him.

          • Posted April 15, 2020 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

            No more stormy weather…

          • Ken Kukec
            Posted April 15, 2020 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

            No golfing?

            The Secret Service signed a $45,000 contract earlier this month to rent golf carts at Trump’s Northern Virginia course that covers from now through September, so it doesn’t seem the Donald intends to forgo the links for long, pandemic or no pandemic.

  3. Simon Hayward
    Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Biden will be pretty old in 2024. But so will Warren. I’d really rather vote for someone younger than myself. Better to go with a more charismatic candidate (IMO)preferably with an age whose first digit is less than 6. I like Warren, I think she’s smart and well prepared. I also think she deserves a good administration job. But I don’t think she should be his VP choice. She grates on a lot of people (a touch of the Hilary Clinton’s) and has made a number of unforced errors – DNA testing, for example. He’ll win MA anyhow and she consistently underperforms her polls, even there. Nationally she’d likely do worse.

    A candidate who is younger and could help in the midwest – Amy Klobuchar or Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Or a well qualified woman of color – Kamala Harris being an obvious one. I still like Stacy Abrams but I understand the qualms regarding lack of experience.

    • Simon Hayward
      Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

      …..I’d really rather vote…

    • Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

      Whitmer or Harris would be good VP choices. I like Amy a lot (I voted for her — first time voting in Pres. primary).

    • Ken Kukec
      Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

      Any one of the four you mention in your second paragraph would make a swell pick.

      I don’t think the bottom half of the ticket will have a major impact in the outcome of this race. Klobs or Whitmer might help a bit with the rust-belt white vote, while Harris or Abrams might invigorate black voter turnout. But enough to change electoral college votes? Who knows?

      Any of the four would also look good on the top half of the 2024 ticket.

    • Rita Prangle
      Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

      I like Michelle Lujan Grisham for VP.

      • Rita Prangle
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

        MLG is young enough, experienced, female minority, and a westerner.

        • Simon Hayward
          Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

          She’s two months older than me – so she misses my first two age-related qualifications, if only by a smidge!

          • Ken Kukec
            Posted April 15, 2020 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

            So she just falls short of the Hayward cut-off?

            Speaking of which, The Hayward Cut-Off could be the name of a Robert Ludlum thriller. 🙂

        • Linda Calhoun
          Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

          She has also done a fabulous job keeping our state safe. she jumped in early with lockdown. Albuquerque, Santa Fe, and Las Cruces are all slowing down at this point. The Navajo Nation is still on fire, but she’s doing her best to provide services to them.

          I started to worry that if she were picked for VP, it would leave a big hole in our government, but I think Howie Morales would make a good governor, too. She appointed him temporarily as education secretary when they first took over last year, so he was holding down two jobs until they got in a permanent appointee, and he did both well. He has a PhD in education from Western NMU, and he’s as high energy as she is.

          I love that our state has so much talent. Kudos also to District 1 Rep. Deb Haaland for her response to the coronavirus emergency.

          L

    • Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

      Stacy Abrams is as charismatic as they come. Would very much like to at least see her give a Big Speech at the Dem convention.

      • Simon Hayward
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

        I agree, she comes over extremely well. But I think she needs some kind of job in an administration, or alternatively a senatorial or gubernatorial seat first for credibility. I’m not sure house minority leader in Georgia cuts it nationally. But she does sound very smart. I’d love to see her as a candidate down the road and I think it would be foolish not to find her a position.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

        Yeah, if Abrams isn’t tapped for the ticket, pretty sure she’ll be the keynote speaker at this summer’s Democratic Convention (even if it turns out to be a virtual convention due to the pandemic).

        It would make for the most anticipated keynote address since Barack gave it at the ’04 convention.

  4. merilee
    Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Excellent endorsement!

  5. GBJames
    Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    I expect that the timing of her endorsement was coordinated with Biden, Sanders, and Obama. Not that I have a clue as to the specific logic.

  6. Harrison
    Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    I’d be incredibly surprised if Warren got the VP spot. There’s huge pressure to pick a female minority and she does nothing to expand the electorate. Staying in the primary long enough to come in third place in her home state and then being the last person to endorse the nominee has likely halted her political career for good. It’s kind of shocking how bad her political instincts have turned out to be.

    • GBJames
      Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

      Two words explain, to me, why Warren won’t be the VP nominee: Republican governor.

      • tomh
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

        Exactly right. It will be tough enough to turn the Senate even keeping every Dem seat that’s running, let alone losing a seat that’s not up. That would make it well-nigh impossible.

      • Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

        + a large number

      • Simon Hayward
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

        Absolutely correct

    • Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

      Female minority – Oprah for VP!!! [that was an attempt at humor which is in short supply with Agent Orange defoliating the truth day by day]

  7. Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Glad it is over, but my enthusiasm is low. I hope Biden chooses a strong running mate.

    • Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

      I don’t love Joe Biden; but I love that he is electable. I think a large chunk of the voters who despise Trump (including a large number of Republicans) will feel comfortable voting for him.

      I too hope he makes a good VP pick. It’s crucial. Probably the most important VP pick since W in 2000.

      I can’t see how Trump will get any independent votes this fall after how he’s fumbled the COVID-19 crisis so publicly, and after his public melt-downs and temper-tantrums.

      Only his core will vote for him. And they aren’t enough to gain the EC.

      We got Trump by 77,000 votes distributed in WI, MI, and PA. Fourth closest EC margin since 1920. And he lost the popular vote by >2% (not close).

      I think he will lose:

      1) Many GOP voters who were willing to hold their noses and vote for him, hoping he’d somehow be presidential.

      3) Independents and fence-sitters who thought, what the hell, the regular guys aren’t doing so well by me, let’s give him a try.

      4) Voters who simply hated Hilary Clinton.

      5) Voters who did not want a woman for POTUS.

      I think great numbers of these will shun Trump for his obvious fumbling incompetence, his appalling behavior, demeanor, amorality, and chaos. If they are presented with a D whose name they can check, they will. I think Biden fits that mold.

      I hope and have a reasonable expectation (IMO), anyway.

      • Posted April 15, 2020 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

        The only thing Trump had going for him was Obama’s coattails of the thriving economy. And that’s out the window now.

        I will be updating these when the April data are available. (Now, we are finally seeing a Trump economic effect.)

        • JezGrove
          Posted April 15, 2020 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

          Indeed we are! Fitting the unemployment rate into the y-axis is going to be a challenge (sadly, for the 10 million who have just lost their jobs).

        • Posted April 16, 2020 at 5:20 am | Permalink

          It’s not a Trump economic effect, it’s a global pandemic effect. There’s nothing Trump or anybody else can do to stop the US economy from crashing now.

          I think it probably would have had a dip anyway later this year or early next year, but we’ll never know.

          • Posted April 16, 2020 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

            Of course. My subtitle is going to say: Of course Trump didn’t cause this dip in the economy, just like he didn’t cause the good economy just before it.

            This is really to tweak the noses of the Trumpers I interact with online (and there are many of them 😦 quite a few of whom are my relatives.

            They have been claiming the good economy is due to Trump. But then, they really aren’t into facts and data, are they? They prefer, “alternative facts”.

        • Posted April 16, 2020 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

          Just updated these plots. For your pleasure:

      • Mark R.
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

        And I don’t think it can be over stated just how much Comey damaged Clinton’s electability with his two press conferences tut tutting her; especially the one he held 11 days before the 2016 election saying the FBI was reopening the email investigation.

        • Posted April 16, 2020 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

          Yes, many single events could have taken those 77,000 votes from HRC:

          – Her deplorables comment
          – The Benghazi hearing (gosh, random timing, right?)
          – SVR er, I mean, Wikileaks DNC email release
          – Comey’s ridiculous statements on the “email crisis”

    • Liz
      Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

      What about Mitt Romney?

      • Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

        As Republicans go, I like Mitt. But no.

      • tomh
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

        “What about Mitt Romney?”

        Haha, good one. Your are joking, of course.

        • Liz
          Posted April 15, 2020 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

          It’s not what I really want but I wan’t joking.

      • Posted April 16, 2020 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

        There will never be a “mixed” ticket (Dem/GOP) — not in my lifetime anyway!

  8. Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    As VP Warren would indeed be in a good position to run in 2024. But she would also be counted as part-owner in whatever gaffes and fiascos develop in Bidens’ administration. That is ever the problem for a VP.

    • Posted April 16, 2020 at 5:28 am | Permalink

      What is this obsession in the USA with electing old age pensioners to political office? Warren will be 74 in 2024. She’s too old.

      There really outgo to be an upper age limit for being president of the USA. I’d set it at under 70 on the day of inauguration.Even my dad stopped working by the time he was 74 and all he had to do was design electricity power grids, not run the richest country in the world and be leader of the free world (although, to be fair, Trump has more or less got POTUS fired from the latter position).

  9. Posted April 15, 2020 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    That was a good speech. It was just the right length. I half expected she would have some ax to grind, subtly of course, but I didn’t hear one.

    • Filippo
      Posted April 16, 2020 at 8:44 am | Permalink

      If Biden picks Warren as V-P and the Dems win, I trust that she will discipline herself to be mindful of nearby hot mics should she deign to again harangue Biden at a public event.

      • Filippo
        Posted April 16, 2020 at 8:52 am | Permalink

        I correct myself. IIRC it was Sanders she harangued at the end of a debate. The mic was no less hot.

  10. Ken Kukec
    Posted April 15, 2020 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Except for single-issue voters on things like abortion and guns (or one of the others that Donald Trump does not give a shit about personally — indeed, about which he has been all over the board over the course of his adult life — but which he has adopted as third-rails in the Republican brand), I don’t understand why anyone would prefer Trump over Joe Biden, unless you’re the type to thrill to his crudeness and petulance and non-stop venting of grievance (which is to say his knack for pissing off his opponents) which places you firmly in the deplorable camp.

    • Liz
      Posted April 15, 2020 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

      A lot of men and *women* *hated* Hillary Clinton for some reason. Many of these women aren’t even baby boomers. Those people still hate her. Thank don’t think they pay attention to politics. I am an independent and always have been. I’m not allowed to vote in the primaries because I won’t declare. I refuse to. Look at this situation. There are people of all classes, education levels, and genders who are still Trump supporters. Right after the 2016 election I started paying attention to politics more closely. I wasn’t excited too much about Hillary Clinton until the day I voted. I knew we would have a female president and got excited for the future. Apparently there were boys in my age group who didn’t vote because of Bernie Sanders? Something like that? Now I understand. People are very divided when it comes to politics and people don’t think for themselves. Some people don’t pay attention to details. Men, women, etc. Trump has some hold on a lot of people still even as he is leading us through the pandemic.

      • Liz
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

        I think* instead of thank

      • Liz
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

        Here are the people still voting for Trump:

        1. Women in the baby boomer age bracket who support their husbands’ position.

        2. Men in the middle and upper middle classes who don’t want higher taxes.

        3. Blue collar and hard working people who like Trump and nothing you say or do will change their minds.

        4. Gun owners.

        5. Oil company owners.

        6. Gen-X women who are very successful in business and *hated* Hillary Clinton. (Many)

        7. Millennial young men who *hated* Hillary Clinton (and didn’t cast a vote against Trump).

        8. Millennial, Gen-X, and Baby Boomer men and women who love Bernie Sanders and will not cast a vote against Trump and for Biden.

        9. People on Wall Street.

        10. Religious people.

        11. The existing people not covered in the above categories in the red states.

        This is a fight. I’m not sure if Bernie Sanders or Mitt Romney is the better candidate for Vice President.

        • Linda Calhoun
          Posted April 15, 2020 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

          Biden said he would pick a woman. If he goes back on that, he’s doomed.

          L

          • Liz
            Posted April 15, 2020 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

            That would be really nice. Maybe Nancy Pelosi, Martha Coakley, Jeanne Shaheen, or Elizabeth Warren.

        • Posted April 16, 2020 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

          Trump had a lot of independents vote for him in 2016. I can’t imagine any of them will stick with him.

          He won by a whisker: 77,000 votes in MI, WI, and PA (out of a total of 137M total votes cast in the USA). He lost the popular vote by 2.9M votes (2.1%, not close at all).

          Can he pull a rabbit out of a hat this year again?

          The thing he had going for him (the president with the worst approval ratings in history, throughout his time in office) was the booming economy: The longest recovery I think in the records (not that he had anything to do with it).

          To put it mildly: He doesn’t have the economy to point to anymore.

          And his temper tantrums and outrageous statements (“absolute authority”) during the COVID crisis clearly disqualify him to anyone who hasn’t drunk the Koolaid.

          I am cautiously hopeful we will see him pried out of the White House come 20-Jan-21.

      • Ken Kukec
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

        I’m no fan of Hillary Clinton’s and voted against her in the 2016 Democratic primary (although I jumped on her bandwagon once she secured the Democratic presidential nomination).

        So I understand why people were un-enamored with Hillary. But why they hated her so is beyond my ken. And it is even further beyond Ken’s ken why anyone would vote against Joe Biden because they hate Hillary Clinton.

        I think hardly anyone hates Joe Biden with the same fervor — since old Uncle Joe is pretty hard to hate — which was a key component to the “electablility” argument he staked his campaign in the primaries upon.

        • Liz
          Posted April 15, 2020 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

          I don’t think people are going to vote against Joe Biden and that’s not what I am saying. People voted for Jill Stein instead of Hillary Clinton. People are talking about not voting at all in this election because they can’t vote for Bernie Sanders. Not voting for Joe Biden contributes to Trump’s win. It isn’t just Bernie Sanders supporters. People who hated Hillary Clinton and had no political preference prior to the 2016 election (and that campaign) are *still* Trump supporters. (People who were never Bernie Sanders supporters but disliked Hillary Clinton.) They were swayed and now that the divide is so great, they can’t see voting for a Democrat. That is what I see. Hopefully I am wrong.

        • Posted April 16, 2020 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

          Agreed, well put Ken.

  11. tomh
    Posted April 15, 2020 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Good grief, Pelosi is 80 years old, none of the others you mention is younger than 67. Surely the Dems can find someone who may outlive Biden.

    • tomh
      Posted April 15, 2020 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

      Meant to be an answer to Liz.

      • Liz
        Posted April 15, 2020 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

        80 is the new 60.

        • Posted April 16, 2020 at 5:33 am | Permalink

          In olden days, women retired at 60. 80 is too old to be holding political office.

          • Posted April 16, 2020 at 5:33 am | Permalink

            Just to clarify: 80 is too old for anyone – male or female – to hold political office.

          • Posted April 16, 2020 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

            I agree. Remember 1980? Reagan was 70 when he took office and people thought he was much too old.

            But in 2020? Go Joe!

  12. Ken Kukec
    Posted April 15, 2020 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know what kept Elizabeth Warren from endorsing Joe Biden until now …

    It makes sense to me that Warren would wait until Bernie came forward with his endorsement of Biden before doing so herself. To have done so earlier, would’ve caused unnecessary dissension among the ranks of Bernie supporters, who would’ve seen her as turning her back on Bernie and capitulating to the Party’s centrist, establishment wing.

    By timing it as they did, that source of disunity was preempted.

    • Posted April 15, 2020 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

      Perhaps she thought that Bernie could pull a rabbit out of his hat and still win the nomination, in which case she would have endorsed Bernie since they are fellow progressives. So, as long as Bernie was still in the race, she felt she couldn’t endorse Biden. Or she’s just the last candidate to endorse. Someone has to be.

  13. Posted April 16, 2020 at 5:38 am | Permalink

    I don’t know what kept Elizabeth Warren from endorsing Joe Biden until now

    It keeps the story that Biden will be the Democrat candidate in the news for an extra day.

  14. Posted April 16, 2020 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Cracking good endorsement speech and video. Well done Elizabeth Warren. Thank you.


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