The last time someone tore off a chunk of the poster advertising my talks at Murray State next week, someone said it could have been to make a grocery list.
Well, that excuse won’t wash for this one.
My posters continue to be defaced and removed, and the students at the Murray State Student Organization for Reason and Science continue to replace them. (Thanks!)
Come on, Christians, stop making work for your brothers and sisters! Would Jesus deface those posters?
WWJD?
And we think the “D” part means “do”? It stands for “deface”!
😀 Nice!
ya gotsta be quick here… (snaps finger, turns around… slowly walks off, head down…)
Um…yes?
He did, after all, wither the fig tree (that symbolized Rabbinical Torah study)….
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Come on Christians! You gotta have something better than that! If you’re going to deface something at least make it witty.
Yeah, this is the kind of protest one would expect from a three year old. By the time someone is in college they really should be using their words. Maybe even sentences!
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Saying you’re a Christian doesn’t make you one. Neither does saying you’re a scientist which is why so many have, and are, leaving Christian denominations for other groups. The problem is that those who see their blind faith being challenged react without reason.
No True Scotsman, hey?
Who is truer to the bible, a religious fundamentalist or a moderate?
I’ve met too many religious fundamentalists who don’t claim to be at all true to the bible. Probably because they’re Muslims. (Though they’re probably thin on the ground in Kentucky.)
Interesting how a few here are unwilling to recognize the the term Christian is nearly meaningless and use it as a universal.
The good Christians of Kentucky believe in all kinds of stuff but not reason, evidence and science. You could not have picked a better place for your talk. Viel Glueck!
You should walk out on stage wearing a funny mask and make a funny comment.Now I can’t think of a comment right now but i’m sure there are tons of readers of this site who can. Surprised they didn’t make you look like the devil with horns and painted red.
They are simply venting their frustration…
Vandalism recapitulates fundamentalism.
lol. Excellent.
That is good. or
Fundamentalism reacpitulates the vandalism of humanity.
What evidence do you have its the “Christians” that are doing this? Could be Muslims, Hindus, or any other religious group. Love the way you paint your broad brush over all of Christendom Dr. Coyne..
Umm. . . just a guess based on my experience, the types of groups who are opposed to evolution, and the relative proportion of Christians versus Muslim, Hindus, or Jews in Murray, Kentucky.
I love the way you try to exculpate Christians by saying it could be Hindus. Yes, and it could be Jains or Scientologists.
Scientologists … can’t exclude them from the frame. Futile covering up of disagreement is so up their street.
And lawsuits.
That does make me wonder whether the Lron-ettes have tried sueing anyone in Scotland? [Self : searches] Not a lot of evidence of them having much success. Not a lot of evidence of them trying – which is probably a sign if a mild absence of dribbling stupidity on their behalf. Oh, the Lron-ettes used to own the Big Yin’s digs. Well, that will have caused plenty of nights of uproarious laughter with his psychobabble bidie-in.
I can guess who that is. I was just watching the (very nice) bidie-in (and guest appearances by the Big Yin) on Not the Nine O’Clock News – you can see most of it on Youtube now. Rather sadly, NTNON never seems to have had a go a the Lron-ettes.
Would I go “Bubble, bubble, bubble?” Of course I would!
It would have been good to see the NTNOCN crew go for the Lron-ettes, but TBH I don’t think they were considered anything much more serious than a bunch of Septic lunatics over here at the time – and to a very large extent, they still are. (Though they’re definitely acquiring an air of menace too.)
I can’t remember the last time I saw anyone touting that particular silliness in town … though I did use the Scientologist’s London office as a marker for finding an oil company office a couple of years back.
I’m willing to lay some money that the population of Muslims and Hindus at Murray State is vanishingly small. I’ll also put some cash in on a bet that opposition to evolution in Kentucky has been led by Christians by a gigantic margin and that you’ll have difficulty producing many examples of non-Christian hostility to evolution in Kentucky.
I can’t help it – is it Christians “that” or Christians “who”?
Pray, give us your learned opinion regarding the likelihood that non-Christian religiosos are responsible for the defacing of the posters. Maybe it’s the acolytes of Wotan.
It’s “who,” but you already knew that.
Either is possible.
Whether Hindus, Jews or Zoroastrians, it will be some religious group or another, which one is really immaterial. All religions deny reality and prefer fairy-tales, and get angry when challenged.
It is still possible, even reasonable, that someone might have just bumped into it causing that tear with no malice involved.
Now if someone wrote “Evil” across it, or something equallally vile, that would be another story.
You’re kidding, right? “Bumped into it”? Srsly??? Of course, the fact that other posters have been removed or torn has no relevance here.
It is possible that a very small pony was wandering in the halls and became frightened by a bat. Rearing back in fear the poor thing’s halter caught on the poster and… bam. Perfectly innocent explanation!
Probably a Norwegian Blue, lost in Kentucky and pining for the fiords.
Norwegian Blue Bat’s can’t fly. That’s why they have to be nailed to their perches.
Ha ha! Or a tiny beaver got loose and felt peckish. With no trees nearby, the poor thing had a nibble of the poster.
Yeah, I once thought they were torn to make grocery lists. I think this is beyond that.
Sincere dislike for what someone disagrees with…and they have no reason that will help them out so they take to slashing.
“Would Jesus deface those posters?”
Of course he would! Jesus always wants whatever each individual Christian wants. That’s what makes him so worthy of worship.
Considering how he trashed those merchants’ tables, Jesus was no stranger to destructive opposition. I don’t think he was a vandal though, nor did he do any business with them, for he did not live in northeastern Europe…
He would however, qualify as a Barbarian, according to the Greeks of his day.
I *hate* calling people vandals, since I strongly suspect it’s a vicious slander on the original Vandals, who were arguably at least as enlightened and no more sadistic or destructive than any other tribe of their millennium. (But I’m not a historian).
Problem is, it leaves me without a suitable term of condemnation for modern-day senseless destroyers of stuff.
As someone who spent lots on time earlier in life putting up protest leaflets, simply being vigilant and replacing them immediately was the best policy. (But I imagine catching someone in the act might be more fun/educational.)
All posters going forward need a picture of Ceiling Cat, with a warning: CEILING CAT SEES ALL!
… pined to the upper casing of the notice board a couple of metres away. Captioned with “The all-seeing eye of CEILING CAT is upon YOU!”
hmm, seems like whomever vandalized the posters is against evolution. now, that shows it’s very likely TrueChristians who are sure that science is the debbil’s work.
Of course, they forget that vandalism is essentially theft. Thou shalt not steal. Ah, again, if hell exists, it’ll be full up to the rafters with “good Christians”.
OK, I’ll get shit for this, but: “whomever”, really?
Not valid in CSF’s comment, I think:
whomever |ho͞omˈevər|
pronoun. chiefly formal or literary
used instead of “whoever” as the object of a verb or preposition: I’ll sing whatever I like to whomever I like.
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yes, really. 😛
“Whoever” is correct, but using “really?” is probably the most dickish way possible of pointing that out.
+1
Just going sideways, but I parse “clubschadenfreude” as “the club for taking pleasure in the misfortunes of others” (obviously), and so I envisage you leaning against a street corner with the “club” representing “the misfortunes of others” swinging from your wrist on a strap.
Now I have to try to spell “shilleileigh” ; oh, it’s in the browser’s dictionary. I wonder how it got there?
No, I think it’s club as in ClubMed, except that these people sitting around drinking cheap alcoholic beverages, with grumpy faces, reading the obituary section and laughing when people fall off their bikes.
heh. A fair assessment. In my imagination it’s a 1930s era supper club. 🙂
and I have shillelagh as the correct spelling.
I have a spelling checker ; whether or not to use it is a matter of choice.
(Particularly with Gaelic, where phonetics have only been fossilised into spelling in the last century or so. Chuck in another vowel, why don’t you? We’re not likely to run out of them.)
moar vowels moar better 🙂
You mean you don’t actually have a Pirates of the Caribbean eye-patch? How disappointing!
?Freed Curd Auditorium?
Named for former state representative Freed Mason Curd.
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Defacing that has possibilities
Come on, Christians, stop making work for your brothers and sisters!
Hello Dr. Coyne. Not sure I agree here. The more the religious crazies engage in such infantile behavior, especially since it is widely bruited, on this website if nowhere else, the more some people will see that this is all they have left, their arguments having been shown to be puerile, fallacious, and/or silly.
I hope your talk goes well. Will you be referring in your opening remarks on the fact that the day of your speech is the 50th anniversary of the death of JFK (and CS Lewis and Aldous Huxley)?
Well, he was only partially defaced – I can still see lots of face there.
And it must have been a Christian – who else could have been so incompetent as to do only a partial deface, and so cowardly as to not identify themselves?
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Henry Gondorff, “Hell, kid, if they don’t do that, you know you’re not getting to ’em.”
S/he only did it to get a mention on WEIT. (But s/he really shoulda signed it…)
You should sign the defaced posters & raffles for charity or something.