Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ Euthyphro

September 10, 2025 • 8:15 am

Today’s Jesus and Mo strip, called “Chosen,” came with the caption, “Anything goes.”  But it reprises an old theological argument, one embodied in Plato’s paradox, the Euthyphro Dilemma, which Plato places in the dialogues of Socrates.  Here’s a brief summary, which is often used by us nonbelievers when arguing theodicy, for the dilemma can apply not just to piety but also to goodness and morality. And the “goodness” dilemma, instantiated in today’s strip, is the question: “Does good decree something good (or moral) because God recognizes it as such, or is it good (or moral) because God decrees it as such?”  (The latter is called the Divine Command Theory.) From Wikipedia:

The Euthyphro dilemma is found in Plato’s dialogue Euthyphro, in which Socrates asks Euthyphro, “Is the pious (τὸ ὅσιον) loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?”

Although it was originally applied to the ancient Greek pantheon, the dilemma has implications for modern monotheistic religions. Gottfried Leibniz asked whether the good and just “is good and just because God wills it or whether God wills it because it is good and just”. Ever since Plato’s original discussion, this question has presented a problem for some theists, though others have thought it a false dilemma, and it continues to be an object of theological and philosophical discussion today.

I don’t think it’s a false dilemma. And Mo clearly believes in the Divine Choice Theory of morality:

Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ Islamophobia

September 3, 2025 • 9:00 am

Today’s Jesus and Mo strip, called “chock”, has a familiar theme: Mo is a hypocrite but realizes it too late. The strip came with a note:

The latest news about the UK’s Islamophobia law is that it’s been delayed.  Here’s that news report:

The UK government has delayed publication of an official definition of Islamophobia, which was expected by the end of August.

Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner had tasked a working group with drafting a non-statutory definition to describe anti-Muslim behavior. However, the timeline has been pushed back to autumn after an online consultation drew an unexpectedly large public response.

The consultation link, circulated on social media by Conservative shadow equalities minister Claire Coutinho, went viral and generated thousands of submissions. Officials say the sheer volume of responses has extended the review process.

Critics, particularly from the Conservative Party, argue that a government-backed definition of Islamophobia risks restricting free speech and could mirror blasphemy laws. Muslim organizations, meanwhile, have urged the government to take action, citing rising hostility towards Muslims across the country.

The government has stressed that the proposed definition will not create new legal obligations but will serve as guidance for public institutions. A spokesperson confirmed that recommendations will be published later this year.

The delay has prompted questions over transparency and whether the government is prepared to balance freedom of expression with protections for Muslim communities.

I wonder where the public response came from, and why they can’t get rid of the “phobia” bit and model it after, say, “antisemitism”? Anyway, here’s the strip:

Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ logic

August 27, 2025 • 9:00 am

Today’s Jesus and Mo strip, called “astray,” came with this message:

Hat tip to Ex-Muslim Sheikh for the video clip [JAC: I’ll embed it here]:

Once again Mo is hoist with his own petard, getting balled up in his own “logic”:

Jesus ‘n’ Mo ‘n’ morality

July 23, 2025 • 9:30 am

If you think about it, you’ll realize that, at bottom, all morality is based on people’s preferences. Despite the argument of Sam Harris that what alternative more “well being” is more moral, that, too, is a preference. (How, for example, do we balance the “well being” of animals and humans who eat them?)  Objectively, is abortion moral? I could go on and on, but won’t.

And a God is not an objective arbiter of morality, either, as the Euthyphro argument shows.

Jesus and Mo, of course, don’t realize this, as we see in this week’s strip, called “hearts”: