This video is my going-to-India present from Matthew Cobb, who wrote “Maybe you’ll see this in India!”
I doubt it. . .
And I don’t know how the hell they train a horse to do this.
Horse yoga!
December 13, 2014 • 1:06 pm
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wow this is awesome. I wonder how he does that. 🙂
How strange. If I were the horse, and I think actual horses would agree, I’d bite him and kick him for holding my nose against my neck like that. 😀
Fifty Shades of Neigh.
Except the horse doesn’t have a “safe word.” Or the capacity to, you know, consent.
Neigh means neigh.
+1
It’s OK if they’re in a stable relationship.
…and if they’re just horsing around…?
b&
Ben’s on a roll🐎
Unbridled passion!
LOL.
Or a proletariat uprising: fraternité, egalité, hay!
Seems a few of us are on the same page on this. It would have felt a little weird to be the only one to feel this way.
Now I cannot stop thinking about it.
Well, anything goes on the internet!
Rule 34.
Discussion ended more firmly than with a Godwin.
I forwarded this to my wife’s yoga instructor and to my wife with a very poignant “forwarded
without comment”.
Indeed you will never see that in India since it’s an example of “doma india” which is a traditional thing in south america (so, wrong indians)
Check this video for another example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7yi5YBl4Gg
Beautiful!! The bossypanta BC got bored, but interesting how all the other dogs chased after at the end.
You’re right: wrong indians. That’s one of the problems of having replaced “indian” with the politically correct “indigenous”. Although “doma indígena” does sound kind of weird.
Exactly. At 0:16 it is spoken “el indio pampa” (spanish) that means pampa indian. And the pampas (a geographical region) are not in India, but south america, mainly Argentina.
I was wondering why the narrating was in Spanish!
From a quick internet search I gather that laying a horse down puts her into a torpor where the “fight/flight” response is deactivated somehow
I just watched a video [can’t copy/paste links on this device I’m using] showing an Aussie jockey/trainer correcting the behaviour of a troublesome racehorse using “the tap” & “half tap”. This seems to involve manipulating the horses neck in a certain manner which causes the horse to submit to being put on the ground. It seems you don’t have to be physically strong to keel a horse over this way.
This technique is at least 200 years old [acc to the netz] – I would suppose cavalry soldiers would have known how to do this to hide themselves & their mounts when nearby cover was unavailable. Perhaps this is “tonic immobility” as per upended sharks & limp kitten in mums jaw [& Spock’s trick too 🙂 ]?
Well I guess it’s okay then if the horse is a consenting partner in this interlude.
Unless of course you’re an old French horse…
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In India, “they kiss horses, don’t they?”
Somebody contact the Department of Equestrian Services.
Horses are amazingly sensitive and responsive creatures. If one can relax and tune in and read the horse then a rapport develops that is profoundly touching. I am forever grateful to a friend who insisted I take a ground training class and to the horse I worked with. An ornery mare part Arabian and part Tennessee Walker, called Silver Dollar. She was stubborn and generous and as trust developed between us astonishingly flexible. I began to feel a coherence in myself that I remembered from being about four years old. There are many videos on the web about this kind of stuff. Some shoddy for sure and a lot that is not but very genuine.It changes one’s sense about what intelligence is.
This is Argentina. The narration mentions Martín Fierro. Wikipedia: “Martín Fierro is a 2,316 line epic poem by the Argentine writer José Hernández. The poem was originally published in two parts, El Gaucho Martín Fierro (1872) and La Vuelta de Martín Fierro (1879). The poem supplied a historical link to the gauchos’ contribution to the national development of Argentina, for the gaucho had played a major role in Argentina’s independence from Spain.”
The gauchos were and still are enormously skilled horsemen. But this event doesn’t appear in the poem.
I taught Latin-American literature for 40 years, including this poem. Really good stuff.
I recently finished “Voyage of the Beagle”. Darwin had some interesting and extended comments on the gauchos and their horsemanship.
It’s possible that this feels really good to the horse, all that stretching and what not. Certain horses probably come to enjoy it, over time.
It’s fairly straightforward, albeit time-intensive, to train a horse to do things like that.
My Spanish isn’t good enough to know what was being said. Something about “tranquil”, “full trust”, and “whisperer”.
If they’re claiming some health benefit for the horse, there is none.
Well, I knew that Indian cuisine was big on fermented dairy, but I could have sworn they used bovine milk, not equine….
b&
I guy I know once mentioned to a female co-worker that he liked to ride, but had few chances to do so. She told him that she had a horse at a stables nearby that he could ride anytime, and she’d call ahead and arrange things for him. Tickled pink, he went out to the place the next weekend and talked to the owner, who brought the horse out and saddled it. After riding it a little in the barn (to satisfy the owner that he did, indeed, know how to ride), he was let out onto their acreage. As soon as he left the barn, however, the horse took off on him and made its way, ever accelerating, towards the back of the property where the jumps were- it apparently intended to take all of them! After a frantic battle to keep it from jumping, whereupon the horse took him on a trip through the woods trying to knock him off, it headed pell-mell back to the barn. After hearing him yell, “Somebody STOP this sonofabitch!”, the owner ran out in front of the horse, arms upraised, and finally got it to stop. When the man got off, the owner said, “I was a little concerned, but you seemed like you knew what you were doing- that’s the meanest horse we’ve got; no one’s ridden it in three years!”
I had to read this sentence a few times because it sounded salacious the way I first read it.
Omg me too!
I possibly know the woman. At least, I recognise the behaviour. Both human and equine.
Aack, what a story!
“…the owner ran out in front of the horse, arms upraised, and finally got it to stop.”
That works?
There is the old trick with frogs where you firmly hold it belly up in your hand, and rub its belly. Its legs extend, and the frog goes into a torper. I have not thought of this in years, but I used to do it all the time as a kid.
A similar thing can be done with female crayfish, but here it is simpler. Just hold it belly up. It will generally stretch itself out, and lie in a motionless torper. In this case, it is thought to be b/c that is how they are mounted by male crayfish.
Interesting…
non violent?
If I’m not mistaken, the horse has been gelded…
Reblogged this on Shashank Patel.
Well, whips are a possibility, but I’d suspect sugar lumps (carrots, whatever) and a fair number of years. Several years with the mare, and then once she’s had a foal and it is old enough to start being trained with the same trainer, you start working on the foal in the presence of it’s mother. The point of the latter being to keep the foal more relaxed.
You might be able to do it without the multi-generation work.
There are some records of how the Romans used to train their performance animals for the special shows in the amphitheatre. It was pretty much what you’d expect, given a supply of valuable animals, cheap humans, and a reasonable amount of time. Breaking deer to pull a chariot was apparently a technical tour de force for the venator. Totally useless for an audience not composed of venators, who wanted violence. And sex. And often the two together.
I wonder if the Romans had a version of Rule 34.