97 thoughts on “And every knee will bow”

    1. No, they believe, like others of their ilk that every human ever created will one day bow before their god. They get off on the idea of being right and the notion that everyone else would also know they were right and we were wrong.

  2. I mean–tiktaalik had some kind of ankle bone stuff, but I wouldn’t call it KNEES exactly.

    1. I’ve been sporting one on my cars since the late 80’s. I’ve only had them vandalized twice!

        1. But if you did so sport it, and they did so vandalize, you would have the opportunity to say to and of them, “That’s mighty Christian of you!”

        2. A small amount of vandalism is worth it because you got their attention. However, in fact I’ve gotten more thumbs up(also pointing to decal) as people drove past.

      2. My previous car had a sticker that said, “Atheism cures religious terrorism”. I was surprised that it never got vandalized.

    2. I think you’re forgetting that the bible is filled with great commands that *other* people should be doing.

  6. Like most people here, if I thought that a god actually existed, I certainly wouldn’t worship him. I might ask him out for a beer to discuss how he’s screwed everything up, but that’s about it.

    The idea of grovelling before any entity like a beaten dog is highly offensive. You’d think that a human being would have a greater sense of self worth than that.

    1. I’ve thought about that a bit. It’s easy to say you wouldn’t worship a god like Yahweh, but what if a god like that actually did exist. Would you really take the principled stand and refuse to worship it, damning yourself to an eternity of torment? It’s a pretty bleak scenario. I’m glad it’s not a choice I’ll ever have to make in reality.

      1. “Would you really take the principled stand and refuse to worship it, damning yourself to an eternity of torment?”

        What choice would you have? You can’t have a worshipful attitude just by observing how useful that would be.

        Now, if you mean by pretending to worship, then sure, I’d do that. I kneel down and sing the damned songs, but a real deity would know that I didn’t mean it.

        1. It depends on which Yahweh you’re talking about – Old Testament or New Testament. I’m not sure how much OT Yahweh would even care about your intentions, so long as you were obedient and followed the letter of the law. Then again, OT Yahweh would just send you down to Sheol when you died without punishing you in Hell like NT Yahweh. But then again, what’s the point in wondering what imaginary beings will do to your imaginary soul?

          1. As you noted, if it leads to decent fiction, that’s plenty of point. Also, if it helps expose to others the absurdity of pretending that fantasy really is really real, it’s worth it unto itself.

            b&

          1. Amen.

            (But also note that kneeling can be a good starting position from which to launch one’s self at an oppressor; timing, of course, is key.)

            b&

          2. From Catch-22,

            Nately: Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

            Old Italian guy in brothel: No, you have it backwards – better to live on your feet than die on your knees!

            (Quoting from memory so details might be wrong).

      2. Why would you assume that the propaganda coming from YHWH’s publicity flacks is the honest truth?

        Much more likely, especially considering YHWH’s allergy to iron chariots, a small but determined resistance movement armed with modern weaponry would make very short work of both YHWH and Satan. Kinda like how I very much doubt that Sauron or his precious Ring would survive a direct hit from a nuclear-tipped cruise missile, no matter how many flying horsemen he tried to send to intercept it in the minute or three between the time it was launched from the submarine and the time it detonated.

        Cheers,

        b&

        1. When I first went through the process of abandoning Christianity, I got the idea for a story somewhat similar to this, where Yahweh was real, but not the creator of the universe, and had been spreading propaganda to build up his reputation to fortify his own soul army. The story’s hero was going to die, learn the truth, and lead a revolt against God. Then I found out about Philip Pullman’s His Dark Materials trilogy.

          3. I read the series and thought it was only fair; it certainly wasn’t a pro-atheist story as the media had represented. The God-figure it lampooned was only a minor episode in the story.

          5. Ben, I have a sneaking suspicion that you would really, really like the trilogy. As fantasy goes, it’s about as good as it gets, and though it might not be preachily anti-god (which would detract from it in any case; “preaching is inimical to art”), it is unquestionably anti-religious. Someone pointed out that it is the anti-Narnia (which I loved to distraction when I was a christian; they are still my wife’s favorite books).

          7. The audiobooks are grand. Pullman narrates with other great characters and there is Lyra who is, next to Juliet one of the best heroines in literature.

          8. The HDM trilogy is an astonishment, and a very worthy reply to Narnia. And I’m pretty sure our polar bear could kill and eat their lion.

          11. I am suprised no one has mentioned “The Salvation War” where God decides its over for Mankind, but Mankind does’nt agree with fatal consequences for both Satan and God. Look it up at TVTropes for more details and a link ( Oblig. warning TVTropes is a serious time sink)

          12. I was just about to recommend The Salvation War, actually. Too bad it will never get completed, much less published, thanks to someone getting buthurt and sabotaging the author. At least the TVTropes article has links to the raw drafts of the first two books (posted by the author, for those who care).

        2. Have you read James Blish’s Black Easter and the sequel, The Day After Judgment? He agrees with you about YHWH’s propaganda, but his demons are totally immune to nuclear weapons. Quirky books, but a great read.

      3. There’s a quote I like – “If a man’s going to pray, he should do it standing up. If you kneel or bow to pray, it just puts you in the perfect position to get kicked in the ass”.

        I saw it attributed to Louis Farrakhan, and if it is, indeed his it’s the only thing he’s said and that I’ve heard that I can agree with.

          1. There’s useful symbolism in NOT insisting on praying, at least where any audience is present. Some character in the Bible remarked on it (not that that’s a good reason by itself, of course).

      4. Any God that demanded my worship, probably wouldn’t be all that powerful.

        After all, why else would it want me to worship it?

    2. > You’d think that a human being would have a greater sense of self worth than that.

      It’s a big part of all religions. There’s clearly some innate desire on the part of most humans to worship something, anything. A few humans want to be worshiped. Sadly, most of the latter aren’t nearly worthy enough and the few who are don’t always care for it.

    1. I had that on a bumper sticker on a car – it got vandalized when I parked across the street from a Catholic church.

      2. Good link. Though I wander if one or more Christian fish were not involuntarily legged. Would that be a hate crime or a plea to a fellow human to be more sensible?

        The truth is, I grew up thinking that the fish with legs represented a Christian who believed in evolution. A somewhat accommodating position that I find unappealing and cannot abandon even if it is not true.

        1. I think you grew up with a misunderstanding. An accomodationist would never insult Xtians by displaying a Darwin fish.

          2. “I definitely agree. It was misunderstanding, but I cannot get it out of my head.
            “

            Pour in some decent red wine. It may just float away.

        2. “The truth is, I grew up thinking that the fish with legs represented a Christian who believed in evolution. ”

          I also think that’s untrue, but now that you’ve said it, I have trouble getting it out of my head. I no longer want a Darwin fish.

          Maybe I’ll get a science rocket instead.

  10. What good has supplication done for these people? I see a blinded, legged fish not wanting or able to take responsibility for life. Let us see how natural selection works on it.

  13. Funny, that poster immediately makes me want to flip the bird to Jesus.

    Just did it.

    That felt good.

    Since Jesus ain’t never showing up, I think I win.

    Praise atheism.

    Vaal

  14. Haw haw haw! And we Darwinists have knees that we can slap when we read such hilarious CHristian humor. I bet he’ll be the next Gary Larson.

    1. From the Christmas carol “Mary, Mary:”
      “Mary, Mary, what you gonna name that baby?
      What you gonna name that holy baby?
      Slaves are we, and looking for a master,
      Why don’t you call him Lord?”

      When I first heard this, my mind boggled. “Slaves are we, and looking for a master!?”
      I thought “Speak for yourself.”

    2. The new testament is not lacking in verses that say the christian is god’s slave. I preached on that once; really woke up the congregation in a hurry!

  16. AIG continues to buy into a very unfortunate stereotype – there is something very fishy about blind faith.

  17. Explain this to me: The bible quote says,in the end, everyone will worship jc. Then why do so many christians proselytize so much? If you believe the bible then why bother wasting your time to convert people who’ll convert anyway?

    1. You’re actually expecting logic from religion? Proselytizing is not for promoting a religion; it’s for putting on a display of authority and telling people what to do.

      1. Well, that and the fact that anyone who does otherwise disproves that passage. Unless it was some sort of wishy-washy prophecy, in which case there’s no reason to care!

  19. I prefer the “procreate” version. It does get second looks, and I’m on my second one now. Don’t know what happened to the first one, buti have my suspicions.

  21. On Mirrorworld, their holy Savioress was born of a Virgin Father and the holy Goddess.

    It’s a lot harder to fake virgin birth on that planet.

  22. When confronted with seemingly dangerous head-on collisions with conflicting world views, Darwinism is able to effortlessly deflect such brute force attacks with just a bit of leg technique, emerging unharmed and strengthened from the encounter.
    A good cartoon.

  26. Is that a prediction? Oops, big fail, never happened, never will.

    Is it a threat? Of course it is. Bow or else. An honest depiction of traditional christianity.

  28. The Darwin fish in the upper frame clearly has backward-bending knees on the rear legs while the Darwin fish in the bottom frame has forward-bending knees on the rear legs.

    Wouldn’t that be an example of evolution? And in almost no time at all!

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