Do big cats like Marmite?

That’s a question I’m sure has been preying on your mind forever. (In case you don’t know what Marmite is, it’s a repellent brown goo made from yeast extract and salt.) I have to admit that I can’t abide the stuff, and don’t understand how anyone can, though I’ve seen Brits eat it with relish. (Not really—they eat it plain on toast).  And I know that I’ll be inundated with complaints from Marmitophiles, so remember that taste is a subjective thing. Some folks love the digusting stuff.

But what about big cats like leopards and tigers? Would they like it? Big Cat Rescue has the answer, and you’ll see in the following video.  I must say, though, that cats have better taste than Brits!

The most common response seems to be disgust, often accompanied by a flehmen response, in which animals open their mouth after detecting a scent, exposing the odor-detecting Jacobson’s organ in the roof of the mouth.  You may have seen your own cat do this, and it’s very common when cats smell the urine left by other cats.  I conclude that, to these large felids, Marmite smells like piss.

Apparently no cats were harmed in the making of this video, but they easily could have been!

h/t: Michael

77 Comments

  1. Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Little cats like Vegemite, which is the real stuff. Marmite *is* revolting!
    But Vegemite? All cats I’ve lived with love it 🙂
    But be warned – if you’re not an Australian, you probably won’t be able to stomach vegemite.

    • chemicalscum
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:22 am | Permalink

      I am an English Canadian and grew up on Marmite in England. However I marginally prefer Vegemite to Marmite. They are both great. Here in Canada Vegemite is relatively hard to find so I have to make do with Marmite which is in every supermarket. I’m stil happy as long as I can get one or the other.

    • teacupoftheapocalypse
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:27 am | Permalink

      Vegemite is ok but only a ‘Strine would say that Vegemite is better than Marmite:)

      Even the Kiwi version of Marmite is superior to Vegemite.

      • BilBy
        Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:31 am | Permalink

        Just stay well clear of ‘Promite’ though. That stuff…ewww.

    • gravelinspector
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

      I’ve had both Vegemite and Marmite, as well as a few other non-branded “yeast extract” pastes. All are somewhere between “edible” and “nice,” but in most comparisons that I do, Marmite comes ahead of Vegemite marginally. But Vegemite is perfectly fine, and definitely better than no “yeast extract paste.”
      The cat I grew up with, now long gone, used to love a fingertip of Marmite, and of the various other domestic cats that I’ve known a small majority were pro-Marmite.
      I never thought about it, but one of my girlfriends at uni (who made me brush my teeth immediately after eating Marmite – she was a “gagger”, not a “gobbler”) speculated that it’s the high degree of saltiness in the mix that some cats like. And others don’t like.
      That may be subject to relatively easy test : animals that evolved in salt-deficient environments and which frequent salt licks in the wild would be more likely to go for the salty “treat.”
      Halloumi and Marmite sandwich … sounds like supper to me!

      • Posted September 1, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

        apart from your preferring marmite, I agree. I thought it was the salt as well, though I did havea siamese cat who used to go ballistic for his yeast tablets 🙂

  2. Dominic
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    It is foul however it is a great ingredient in cooking, especially mixed with the juices of a joint of meat to make gravy. Well, that is what my ma used to use it for!

    • Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:47 am | Permalink

      Bovril is better 😀

      • gravelinspector
        Posted September 1, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

        Possession of Bovril will get you accused of doing things … best left to the imagination.
        In other culinary Briticisms : Oxo, crumbled over broken stale bread ; add hot water ; “goodie”, as in “Goodie, goodie, yum yum!” Cheap and effective. Tastes better than roast beard of birdwatcher.

  3. Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    My parents were Brits, and they ate Marmite. The only time I tried it, I almost had a, um, involuntary “response”.

  4. Jonathan Smith
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Marmite= breakfast of the gods. I was raised on marmite, to us Brits it’s better than Spam.

    • teacupoftheapocalypse
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:18 am | Permalink

      Of course it’s better than Spam. A kick in the nuts is better than Spam.

      • Kevin
        Posted August 31, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

        +1

  5. Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    North Americans will NEVER understand Marmite! Who cares if cats like it – their not getting their paws onto my stash!

  6. Another Matt
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Marmite is OK, but vegemite is where it’s at. Vegemite on toast is my favorite food when I’m ill with a cold. It’s also a great addition to ground beef and chili.

  7. JBlilie
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    It’s marginally tolerable as a seasoning on buttered toast. If you can’t see through it, you’ve put on waaaaay too much.

    Having spent a lot of time in NZ and OZ and the UK …

    • Posted August 31, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

      a good slice of fresh, crusty bread with a thin smear of real mayo and marmite on top of that.

    • gravelinspector
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

      Marmite on toast should be applied at a thickness that it could be used as a filter for viewing a partial solar eclipse.
      If only it weren’t so darned expensive.

  8. Michael Fisher
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Bovril is my umami fix. Excellent as a hot drink on a cold day ~ though it’s OK spread onto dry toast too.

    • Ludo
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:57 am | Permalink

      Another popular brand is OXO. It is the same (?) as Bovril, and as a hot drink it is called beef tea in the UK.

  9. Ludo
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Cheese and Marmite sometimes combine very well. And, as already mentioned, it is a useful ingredient for many dishes.
    Here are some Marmite-recipes:
    http://www.murple.net/recipes/marmite-recipes.pdf
    http://comparethemarmite.com/category/marmite-recipes/

    • Posted August 31, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

      True I love Marmite on my toasted cheese sandwiches!

  10. latsot
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Reminds me of the marmite slice joke…

  11. Hempenstein
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    I’m a N American omnivore, and I like Vegemite and Bovril. Never tried Marmite, but to me the first two are just like concentrated bouillon.

  12. bonetired
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    I have a homeopathic view of Marmite …..

    • whyevolutionistrue
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:38 am | Permalink

      This comment wins the thread!

    • teacupoftheapocalypse
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

      I have a homeopathic view of marzipan.

    • gravelinspector
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

      Then how do you clean out the jars?

  13. teacupoftheapocalypse
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    I challenge you to prove that Marmite is “disgusting”, as you put it.

    The cool big cats clearly love the stuff. Some big cats must be just uncool, despite appearances.

    • whyevolutionistrue
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:39 am | Permalink

      That’s the easiest challenge I’ve ever had. Just give me some on toast and I’ll show you how disgusting it is!

      • teacupoftheapocalypse
        Posted August 31, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

        Not possible – I’ll eat it before you get the chance!:)

    • Posted August 31, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

      I wouldn’t be too sure about your optimism. I’m very familiar with this open-mouthed, scrunched-up-nose response of cats, when they come across extreme odour. My cats’ eyes even take on a dazed look, such as when they encounter leakage from our dogs’ anal glands, and also odour from what could be called “toe cheese” or “toe jam” from under ungroomed toenails. Eeew…

      If I want savory brown stuff, I reach for Solomon Gundy!

  14. BilBy
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    My Englishness, such as it is after my years of living in various countries, has boiled down to always having a supply of marmite, HP brown sauce, and salad cream. And the accent.

  15. Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    BTW:
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/11/29/marmite-crash-uk.html

    No word on whether local felines turned out to help with the cleanup ;-).

  16. Jonathan Hartley
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    What’s not to like about Marmite? You can eat it on toast, it’s even better spread on freshly baked buttered bread, it makes a cheese sandwich perfect, it makes a delicious hot drink and adds a depth to gravy. Vegemite? Pah! An inferior pretender. If there were gods they would live on Marmite (but not NZ Marmite, that’s got sugar in it, for reasons known only to Kiwis).

    • gravelinspector
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

      (Reasons known only to Kiwis) … Probably to hide the taste of the Kiwi fruits they presumably make it out of down there.
      I note that Vegemite has a noticeably sandier texture than proper Marmite. The Aussies probably left the window open while they were trying to mimic the recipe.

  17. Stonyground
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    The either love it or hate it thing was part of the advertising campaign for Marmite in the UK. I used to like it when I was a kid but it’s so long since I had it that I have no idea whether I would like it now.

    • gravelinspector
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

      [Snigger] Remembering finding out that a certain lady at university “gagged” rather than “gobbled”. I’d never told anyone else that story until I saw those adverts and deduced that ours was not a unique experience.

  18. Thanny
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Vegemite and Marmite taste pretty much the same. If you can’t stand one, you can’t stand the other. And if you like one, you’ll like the other. There are subtle differences in flavor, but they are not large enough to justify any strong advocacy of one over the other.

    Marmite has the look and consistency of very gooey caramel, which makes it challenging to remove from the container without making a mess. Vegemite is darker and more like softened butter in consistency – it doesn’t run, and is quite easy to spread.

    It’s definitely an acquired taste. I use both on buttered bread of any sort (toast, hard roll, bagel, etc.), when the mood strikes me. While I’ve lately seen Marmite on the shelves in some local stores (NJ/PA), I order both online.

  19. bric
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    So how do we feel about Patum Peperium – Gentlemen’s Relish? My cat was attracted by the smell, but wouldn’t eat it.

  20. Posted August 31, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    I rather like Marmite (haven’t tried Vegemite, a little hard to get tht here in the states where I live. Wegmans has Marmite). I also like Spam, especially the low sodium version. A couple of the big cats seemed to like it, licking it up. Some of them also seemed rather “stoned” by it, that one leopard and the two lynxes, if I recall correctly. I would have like to see a snow leopard with it 🙂

  21. Posted August 31, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    My British mother can’t stand Marmite (I can take it or leave it – no strong opinion either way). For Mum, the ONLY breakfast worth eating is white toast with butter and Lyle’s Golden Syrup. Having long since sworn off most wheat and refined sugar, I no longer allow the heavenly syrup into my pantry, because I still find it irresistible. Must be genetic.

    The feline version of Marmite is called CatLax. It’s a hairball remedy (brown yeast-flavored goo in a tube). I’ve never seen a cat that liked it.

    Big Cat Rescue is great. I visited in 1999 and loved it, and they’ve made a lot of improvements in the place since then.

    • teacupoftheapocalypse
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

      Quite fond of the Lyle’s myself. It was a childhood staple, although NEVER with butter. Very nice on crumpets.

    • gravelinspector
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

      Lyells Golden Syrup on toast, with coarsely crystallized brown sugar sprinkled on the top and condensed milk spread over the top of that. When I saw that sandwich (or the debris of it’s construction) in the kitchen, I knew that my older sister was pregnant again.

  22. JonLynnHarvey
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    What about humans being harmed in the making of the video? 🙂

  23. docbill1351
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    If you hate Marmite you’ll LOVE Twiglets!

    Marmite flavored wHeat** sticks! Salty and Marmity and yummy. Go great with G&T.

    Just returned from London with a suitcase full of Twiglets packets

    Twiglets even have a Wikipedia entry!

    **overemphasize the “H” Stewie Griffin-style for maximum effect and annoyance.

    (a cherished and valuable bag heading your way, Jerry, and I want a full report!)

    • BigBob
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

      Twiglets are the dog’s – I can eat a whole family bag on one sitting, in the car, away from the competition.

    • gravelinspector
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

      Yummy. But they stick to your teeth.

  24. Posted August 31, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Marmite id the byproduct of the Devil, whereas Vegemite is the stuff of angels.

    • teacupoftheapocalypse
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

  25. Al
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Since the host of this blog (sorry, website) is an avowed ailurophile, this should be mildly interesting:

    In Search of the Living, Purring, Singing Heart of the Online Cat-Industrial Complex
    http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/08/ff_cats/all/

  26. BigBob
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Marmite. I grew up on Marmite. Marmite on cream crackers. And one of my earliest memories is being in nusery school with Mrs. Lowe who also knew the value of a good savoury spread. She used to make what she called ‘Rusks’; they were bread fingers, baked in the oven until golden brown and crunchy. Mrs. Lowe would sit us all in a circle and spread the Marmite from the biggest jar she could buy and pass them around. No other snack has lived up to that experience before or since. And I’ve devoured a few snacks let me tell you. All my lads eat Marmite too. No influence from me natch.
    Bob(Big)

  27. Posted August 31, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Growing up in suburban Perth, most kids would “brown bag” it for school lunch. Most of the time, it was either a jam sandwich, a peanut paste sandwich, or a marmite or vegemite sandwich.

    I suppose we sometimes had other things in the sandwiches. But, in the hotter months, cheese would tend to melt. This was before refrigeration became common, so cold cuts of meat weren’t an option. Marmite and vegemite had the advantage of keeping rather well.

  28. Paul Clapham
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know about big cats, but I have tried giving Marmite to house cats and they were perfectly happy to lick it off the knife.

  29. MadScientist
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    As folks have pointed out, the same crap is eaten in Australia with the name “Vegemite”. As David Mitchell said, Marmite is only slightly less popular than Hitler once was:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2012/aug/09/david-mitchell-soapbox-loving-hating-marmite-video

    • infiniteimprobabilit
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 1:10 am | Permalink

      Loved the video!

      (Of course, as someone who thinks that Marmite looks, smells and probably tastes like [something else notoriously brown and sticky], I would, wouldn’t I?)

      Interestingly, here in New Zealand, the owners of the NZ ‘Marmite’ trademark won’t allow English Marmite to be imported under that name, even though the bottle is distinctively different. While I’m theoretically opposed to all such monopolistic trade practices I’ll wait until it happens with something I might want to buy before taking to the streets…

      • teacupoftheapocalypse
        Posted September 1, 2012 at 5:22 am | Permalink

        “similar to the UK version without sugar”

        There is no sugar in UK Marmite!

  30. Posted August 31, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Damn, I was so engrossed in reading about Marmite that I’ve burn my instant noodles! I’m going back to reading PZ Myers blog!!

  31. palefury
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    My sisters cat used to love marmite!

    NZ Marmite is the best (I would say that I am a Kiwi) followed by Vegemite. I don’t like the British Marmite though – it has a weird aftertaste. Yeah yeah they all taste weird – you have to be brought up on the stuff or you will never get it.

    Sadly there is a world wide shortage of NZ Marmite, the factory was damaged in the Christchurch earthquake so I have to make do with the Aussie Vegemite. 😦

    • Dawn Oz
      Posted August 31, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

      And as an Aussie, I only like Vegemite and agree that you have to be brought up with it. My thoughts are often with Christchurch.

    • teacupoftheapocalypse
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 5:27 am | Permalink

      My nephew is currently in NZ and has become involved in a UK Marmite smuggling ring because of the shortage of the NZ stuff. He’s probably the ringleader, though won’t admit it.

    • Another Matt
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 6:24 am | Permalink

      I don’t agree that you have to be brought up with it. Once during my undergrad an Australian friend brought some vegemite to lunch and let me try some. I about flipped, and was on a train that day to Tea and Sympathy to get some from their store. I’ve always preferred vegemite to marmite, and if you’re crazy enough to let it sit on a shelf it lasts longer — marmite gets hard.

    • MadScientist
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

      Obviously god hates the stuff too. While cleaning out the house recently, I found a pamphlet from that cathedral that god hated so much; I just don’t get that god – I thought the building was rather beautiful (well, it was before the divine renovation).

      • infiniteimprobabilit
        Posted September 1, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

        I thought it was kinda ironical that god chose to zap _Christ_church of all cities in NZ, with an earthquake aimed point-blank at it. And it can’t have been a boobquake, I doubt there were enough bikinis on New Brighton beach to even register on the boob-o-meter.

        Wrecked the Cathedral (anglican), wrecked the Catholic cathedral too. Gotta love the irony.

        Atheist though I am, I’m sad to see the Cathedral go, it was the focal point of the centre of Chch, the only city centre in NZ worth looking at, in my view.

  32. Barbara
    Posted August 31, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Some years ago, my cat was twining about my feet, begging, as I prepared pineapple. I dropped a piece on the floor for him. He sniffed it, looked odd, then stood over it and scratched at the floor as if burying shit in his litter box. An unequivocal opinion there.

    (An opinion of pineapple that I do not share.)

    Neither he nor I have had the opportunity to form an opinion on Marmite, I’m afraid.

    • gravelinspector
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

      Marmite spread on pineapple … Hmmm, I haven’t tried that one.
      I’ll report back.

      • teacupoftheapocalypse
        Posted September 1, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

        Marmite and peanut butter is pretty good, too.

  33. willem
    Posted September 1, 2012 at 2:41 am | Permalink

    In South Africa we also have a long Marmite tradition (as we were colonised by the Poms), similar to the UK version without sugar. Does team up very well with something sweet on toast, and a cup of decent black coffee. There is now also a version blended with cheese. Lovely. Go on, broaden your horizon!

    • MadScientist
      Posted September 1, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

      I dare you to hand the marmite-tainted cheese to a Norwegian – that should be a sight. The Norwegians love their brown cheese (I suspect it’s 90% sugar 10% cheese) – maybe that marmite-cheese will cure their brown cheese addiction.

      • Another Matt
        Posted September 1, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

        1) Gjetost cheese is a favorite in my wife’s family, and none of them likes mar-/vege-mite — maybe you’re on to something.

        2) The first time my wife tried vegemite she was somehow under the impression that it was a chocolate spread, or something like nutella. I’ve no inkling how she got that idea.
        <__> <_<

  34. David
    Posted September 1, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    I’m English, but I marginally prefer Vegemite to Marmite. Don’t get me wrong, I will eat Marmite, but Vegemite has a slightly milder taste and a better texture for spreading.

    I wonder how many of the people (mainly Americans) who have tried Marmite/Vegemite and found it disgusting have not understood that you have to spread it very thin? I can quite imagine that if you spread it thick like (e.g.) peanut butter you will not want to try it again! If you haven’t grown up in a Marmite/Vegemite consuming culture you may not have learned this vital fact.

    • Jonathan Hartley
      Posted September 2, 2012 at 5:20 am | Permalink

      Many, many years ago a German pen-friend came to stay. At breakfast one morning he picked up the Marmite jar. All of us immediately issued warnings: “don’t spread it too thickly”; “you’ve got too much on the knife”; “scrape some off before eating the toast”. He ignored us. All we could do was watch in horror as he took his first bite and his mouth, followed quickly by his whole face, registered surprise, disgust and then pain. He never returned and I didn’t get an invitation to visit him.

  35. Posted September 4, 2012 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    One of the old tv adverts for Marmite included the line, “[spread it] good and thin, mind”!

    I prefer Vegemite by itself on toast, but Marmite in combination with other things. The best combo is a teaspoonful of Marmite mashed into two hard-boiled eggs.

    Btw, the name comes from the traditional cooking pot (in which it was first made, iirc) depicted on the label.

    Folks in the UK will have seen, but others may not have, the special Diamond Jubilee version, Ma’amite.

    /@@

    • teacupoftheapocalypse
      Posted September 4, 2012 at 9:33 am | Permalink

      I’m not sure that the Ma’amite version wasn’t just a re-packaging marketing ploy. There are, however, other versions of Marmite:

      Marmite XO, extra matured for a stronger, fuller flavour.
      Guinness Marmite, which is made from 30% Guinness yeast, rather than just ale yeast
      Champagne Marmite, limited edition Valentine’s day special with a hint of champagne
      Marston’s Pedigree Marmite, an Ashes special edition, made with Marston’s Pedigree yeast, rather than the usual Burton Ale yeast. Only produced when England play the Aussies in the Ashes series. I don’t know if Vegemite do an Ashes limited edition version. Naturally, there is no NZ Ashes limited edition Marmite, as there are no NZ Ashes, only Australian Ashes.

      • Paul Clapham
        Posted September 4, 2012 at 10:37 am | Permalink

        “Re-packaging marketing ploy?”

        Yes, that’s exactly what it was. I did the taste test and the only difference was the packaging.

        Although when I went looking for Marmite in the Tesco in Edinburgh in early June and found “Ma’amite” instead, my first thought was that it was some kind of Marmite knock-off. I had to read the label to find out that it was the real thing.

        It took me a few minutes to realize that “Ma’amite” is a pun in British English.

        • teacupoftheapocalypse
          Posted September 4, 2012 at 10:50 am | Permalink

          I’ve seen it on the shelves, but only in 250g jars, so I didn’t buy any, as I alsways go for the largest available.

          The XO stuff is pretty damned good, as is the Gunness version, but rather smoother and milder (perhaps).

      • Posted September 4, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

        Yes, just a relabelling — not with added diamonds…

        /@


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