9 thoughts on “Saturday: Hili dialogue”

  2. Since readers’ comments are light this morning, I would like to use the Hili platform to urge our audience, particularly in the US, to watch the TWiV Episode 1234, weekly clinical update that came out today. After the usual banter Vincent and Dr Dan remind us of the Great Barrington Declaration folly and how its progenitors (or at least their ideology) are now in charge of US health policy. Dr. Dan notes that even some long time health care professionals have either forgotten or never knew about Great Barrington and its authors five years ago. First 22 minutes. Url should be
    https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/

    1. I did not know of the Great Barrington Declaration, but we all know of the argument for it, as it’s still going on.

      One fine day, one would like to see a class action lawsuit brought to RFK Jr. and others over the injuries and deaths caused by their moronic policies regarding vaccines. People with long Covid, or had relatives that died of Covid or other causes because insurance companies would not cover them and they could not afford vaccination. I don’t know if such a case could carry thru, as it’s tricky to prove that a specific person did not vaccinate over financial reasons, but a lawsuit involving good #s of people might be persuasive.

      1. Mark, Great Barrington written by health economics guys. Bhattacharya has Stanford md but no residency or fellowship. He went right into doctorate from their business school. Apparently use of medical knowledge to save maximum number of lives ranks lower for them than trying to keep an economy running. At least that is what I infer from their recommendations in the light of clear peer reviewed epidemiology, virology, vaccinology. And that is simply from an engineer who studies all sides.

        1. Have you studied the national pandemic plans and standard public health protocols that were in place prior to 2020? They might surprise you with their “folly.”

          Have you ever wondered about when and where the idea of “lockdowns” arose? Have you pondered what influence the national security establishment had on policy development after the post-9/11 anthrax scare?

          Bhattacharya was one author. The part does not equal the whole. The other two authors are not economists. Do you know their areas of expertise?

          Are you aware that Francis Collins has publicly acknowledged that the government response was too narrowly focused and the public health community was myopic in refusing to consider broader health implications and other consequences of their novel—and futile—attempt to suppress community spread of an aerosolized virus?

          Have you wondered why the authorities who led the response steadfastly refused to convene any type of independent commission in the aftermath to study the successes and failures in preparation for future pandemics?

          1. As I know you know, Doug, people’s heels are dug in on anything daring to question the sorts of topics you bring up. I get the sense there exists an element of fear. As though, to ask would lessen one’s faith in their beliefs. I use the words “faith” and “beliefs” quite intentionally.

  4. I’m also glad to see Kulka. It looks as if the meadow should be large enough for both of them, but that’s not Hili’s perspective. I enjoy seeing all three cats, though don’t tell that to Hili!

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