What “a miracle of love and creativity” is Homo sapiens!! Or so we’re told by this BioLogos flak in a video describing the organization’s new and super secret Big Project (possibly funded by Templeton). All we know from this teaser is the following (from the flak’s quote):
“What if we told that Grand Biblical narrative with the scientific knowledge of the origins of the Universe that the ancients did not have? What would it be like? Let’s call it The Big Story.”
I call it The Big Steaming Pile of Accommodationist Excreta—another pathetic and futile attempt to get evangelical Christians to buy biological evolution. But perhaps readers can guess about what lies in store here:
h/t: Douglas
No, because it is turtles all the way down.
Stop and dig deeper? Aren’t those opposing activities?
Well, I guess not, if you are god. Then you can do both and speed up too.
Also we learn that if you find yourself in a hole, the solution is – stop digging.
I find this assumption that religion is “deep” not only mendacious (it’s shallow), but insulting. Yes, atheism is all about being an unthinking consumer robot, buzzing along mindlessly without exhibiting any curiosity. Thank you, BioLogos, for relegating naturalism to the status of “Little Story” and making a greedy grab for the entire range of philosophy and ethics.
And by “thank you,” I mean “screw you.”
Not only is it shallow, but it is all smoke and mirrors.
Yes. You can say that again.
Not only is it shallow, but it is all smoke and mirrors.
All the way down to what? The unmoved turtle?
More turtles, of course.
It’s like Pi.
That sounds like a circular argument.
They just love tautologies. The Bible said it so they believe it. But Jehovah wrote it they say. How do you know? It says so right in chapter…line…
WOW! I went to the Biologos site and it is finely chopped mixture of feathers and salad fixings.
I’m still puzzled by why people are trying to conflate the inconflatable. Is it just for money?
No. Some profit, of course, but that’s not why it exists. It exists to obscure the pain of realizing that you’ve based your life on a crock. Rather than say, “My childhood screwed me over with wrong ideas, but now I’m moving on”, and then doing the hard work of building a new world view, a good chunk of people just double down.
I am sadly surprised that the purveyors of this false science don’t seem to have the zeal for true creativity and are rather lazy and lackadaisical about it. Real scientists do put their energy into it and is much deeper than a level or two. Such as taxonomy. Science has it down to species and even subspecies from Families. The Creationists just use a vague identifier as “kind” to lump numerous species together. I almost feel the need to do it better than them. Not seriously mind you, but as an exercise in creativity for fiction.
I knew when I clicked “play” I was going to see something icky. I was right. And so were you. “Big Steaming Pile of Accommodationist Excreta” coming our way.
What lies in store?
Lemme guess, if you use sciencey sounding words while arguing g*d-o-the-gaps, people won’t call you one of the 253 synonyms for ignoramus listed at powerthesaurus.org
“God” isn’t a name isn’t a deity. It means to “invoke the deity”. So at least use a proper name like Jehovah or Zeus or some such so we know which religion you are speaking of. God-the word really is misused as some general identifier. I wish I had not found that out.
I find accommodationists to be worse than the Creationists because they are infecting science and making it sound like they can go together without problem. Which the bulk of our society will use since they really have little interest in science at all.
“What would it be like?” It would be like saying the existence of conscious human beings is the result of love and a miracle while knowing perfectly well that impersonal natural selection is a very plausible explanation and that we don’t need miracles.
They want to feel special. And to do that they have to be part of an “extra special creation” that leaves a chasm between humanity and the remainder of Earth life. To them the idea we are all interrelated to all other life on this planet is actually noxious to them! They think it drags them down if they are. To us it is just more undisputed proof that we are of this planet, this biology and not planted by some deity or aliens etc.
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Well, if you’re going to try to claim that everything arose out of “love,” then what you end up with is probably going to depend on the level and amount of detail you attempt to provide.
If you try to get all technical about it and describe a process in which a primal “Love” works through physics, then it will be like pseudoscientific New Age babble.
If, on the other hand, you remain as vague and mysterious as you can, then it will be like saying nothing while trying to pretend you’ve found a profound connection between disparate modalities. In other words, same old, same old.
The more honest the so-called Big Story is, the more religion is going to end up as superficial windowdressing.
No, let’s call it “The Big Lie”.
Sounds better to me.
Dig deep by all means hopefully it will collapse as bullshit is no subsitute for reinforcing but in truth it will only be the truth that will be buried…
“What if we told that Grand Biblical narrative with the scientific knowledge of the origins of the Universe that the ancients did not have? What would it be like? Let’s call it The Big Story.”
Is this not an admission that the whole thing is made up by ignorant people in the past and not the word of an omniscient god.
I suppose it would be naive of me to wonder if they also plan to explain some of the grand non-biblical creation myths.
if I were them I would say that they are echoes of the “one true story” and let it go at that. Instead of a possible anceint memory of some vast flood, maybe the sudden melting of the ice at the end of the last Ice Age in enough places where enterprising humans concoct the same kind of story. Assyrian/Babylonian/Sumer story and the Hebrews in their captivity for instance were influenced by their story. Though there are others all over the planet including the Indi nations of N. America.
FFS! It reminds me of a GIF I just put on my website’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/HeathersHomilies/
Gud grief!
Excellent. Even more excellent is my son asked who is Adam?
Dear PCC(E),
I need to bring this to your attention and don’t know how else to do so…and I’m certain many readers might also find this amusing.
A nice new paper on Bullshit: http://journal.sjdm.org/15/15923a/jdm15923a.pdf
Also, I thoroughly enjoy your writings.
The question
“What if we told that Grand Biblical narrative with the scientific knowledge of the origins of the Universe that the ancients did not have?”
has been answered in a very different way in Steve Jone’s book “The Serpent’s Promise: The Bible Retold as Science”. Jones is an atheist who is relatively affable to religious folks if not to religions.
He gives science answers to Biblical questions. He likes the Bible’s questions, just not its answers.
If that’s their idea of a “teaser,” I don’t think there’s much to worry about…
What the heck is a “divine community”? Whatever it is it overflows with love and pinpoints appear apparently.
I wonder what the creationists think of the finding of possible evidence of the existence of the multiverse. It would be a colossal stretch to consider that the multiverse was somehow predicted in the babble.
https://cdanews.com/2015/11/cosmologist-finds-possible-proof-that-a-multiverse-exists/
Even they would have a hard time of a single deity ruling all the trillions + alternates.
Maybe BioLogos can do a video of The Evolution Of Biologos. Subtitle: “Our path from promoting evolution to promoting miracles in less than 8 years.”
So is someone going to be defending the Empedoclean cosmology, with evolution by natural selection as a thing, but also with love and strife as forces? 🙂
Pukefest.