You can watch Mike Pence and Kamala Harris go at each other at many places. One of them is the CSPAN livestream below. The debate starts in exactly an hour, and, if you wish, you may comment below as it proceeds.
May the best Democrat win!
Livestreaming the Vice Presidential debate
October 7, 2020 • 7:00 pm
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May the best non-vicey Vice-President lose. Pence 2024: We’re gonna Make ‘Murikuh Great Again,Again,Again!
Pence will spew lie after lie at a machine gun rate. The fact checkers will have a field day.
Given he has been hanging around tRump and the WH, lies may not be the only thing he will spew.
Add some spice, or a drinking game. Just started:
https://youtu.be/wxuCpvjcfFY
here come the lies
read that as “here come the flies. Apparently a fly landed on Pence?
In response to the question about the Rose Garden Superspreader event, Pence simply ducks the question, as he’s ducked all questions so far. And he runs over time.
But Harris isn’t completely on point, either. I guess that’s the way these things go.
The moderator is not enforcing the time regulations
I guess we can no longer expect debates in which the candidates answer the questions asked. Why can’t the moderator make them answer the damn questions? Harris is now ducking the question about whether she had a talk with Biden about his possible incapacitation.
I am just a few minutes away from turning this “debate” off.
+1
Senator Harris is showing extraordinary restraint in dealing with this yahoo
“Senator Harris is showing extraordinary restraint . . . .”
Yes it is good for her to show restraint. And for her the restraint may well be extraordinary, inasmuch as she has been unable or unwilling to show much restraint during the Demo candidate debates (when Biden got an ear-full from her) and during her questioning of witnesses before senate committees, doing her share of interrupting and holding forth with snarky comments. Which I gather is par for the course in The World’s Greatest Deliberative Body.
You don’t seem very cheerful this morning, Filippo.
“You don’t seem very cheerful this morning, Filippo.”
I congenially thank you for your observation. Perhaps brethren here will deign to pray for me to be delivered from whatever may be ailing me.
“Senator Harris is showing extraordinary restraint in dealing with this yahoo.”
I wish she would show a bit more restraint and lose the conspiratorial smirk while Pence is talking–or else that the camera wouldn’t show the candidates’ reactions. Biden did the same thing with Trump and it accomplishes nothing except play to the base. The only candidate I’ve ever seen who could get away with this “There he goes again” grin was Reagan, but he was a professional actor.
I love it when Republicans lecture people in proper debate etiquette.
“I love it when Republicans lecture people in proper debate etiquette.”
No doubt, without Ms. Harris’s smirk, a debate not a few evaluate as boring would have been even more boring, I suppose.
At least she didn’t wear a tan suit!
We’re getting two stump speeches, interrupted by the occasional question the debaters promptly ignore.
Yes, this is immensely frustrating; not a single question has been answered directly.
yes, both seem to be *not* answering the questions that are being asked
Who the hell should take a vaccine pushed only by tRump. Why is this a debate?
At least the interruptions are fewer.
at least Harris is not lying the way her opponent is, though. So I guess there is that
yes, fewer interruptions is a refreshing change from last week
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a few days ago L E D ” the office in charge of
credentialing people for access to
the White House and works closely with
the Secret Service ” personnel. Bona fide
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for days and days. Covid.
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You guys are better than me. I can’t watch.
So far, a bit boring
Pence twice said a Biden administration would “literally crush” American jobs.
I don’t think that’s possible unless you work as trash compactor or punch-press operator and have a nasty industrial accident.
Pence could certainly crush the life out of a good party.
I’m surprised “Mother” let him get on stage alone with a woman.
She (is “Mother” a she? or an American pop-culture reference I don’t get?) probably kitted him out with a one of these.
Sorry – I didn’t mean to imply that the Chinese have Pence by the short’n’curlies. But that implication is certainly in there. It’ll make a change having American politics controlled from Beijing instead of Moscow.
Hang on … “Mother” from “The Avengers” … no, still doesn’t fit. Whatever.
“Mother” is what Mike Pence calls his wife.
Pence refuses to dine alone with a woman other than “Mother,” and won’t go anyplace where alcohol is served without “Mother” at his side.
It’s some kind of weird “Billy Graham Rule” he and “Mother” follow.
It’s quite common, at least in my native England, to hear husbands of my generation and earlier (I’m 73) refer to their wives as ‘Mother’ but only if the couple have children.
That’s how fathers their age would refer to their wife when talking to the children, and it becomes a habit.
I’ve always regarded it as rather homely, charming and respectful.
Pence ruined ‘that’ notion for me. He’s skin-crawlingly weird IMO.
IIRC, Lincoln addressed Mary Todd Lincoln as “Mother.” (At least he did in the movie.)
Pence’s “Billy Graham Rule” must gall those who’d like to find the flimsiest excuse to hypothesize/speculate about any situation where he was/is unchaperoned in the presence of another woman. (The old, “Just asking the question.”) I reasonably assume that he took to heart Gary Hart’s experience.
Sounds like something out of “Psycho”. Which may be where he got it from.
How did Tom Lehrer sum up ‘Oedipus Rex’? “It’s about a boy who loves his Mother.”
I am split screening with the Yankees Rays game. So far I can follow both easily.
¡ Y E A ! Senator Harris just got
to what ‘as angered me for weeks,
” President Trump says
‘ Science doesn’t know.’ ”
Oooo. I cannot.not. get started,
Mr Trump / Mr Pence.
Blue
Joe Biden has been “a cheerleader for communist China for decades”??!!
What the heck?
Say the cheerleaders for Russia.
The mederator needs to be more forceful than “Thank you, Mr. Vice President”!
A loud handclap followed by a yelled “HEY!” sometimes gets the attention of my cat.
Pence’s pat answer to every question about climate change is “the climate is changing.”
When it comes to evading any discussion of cause or responsibility, that ranks up there with Ronald Reagan’s Iran-Contra “mistakes were made.”
Harris more animated than Pence. But then so would a mannequin.
“Harris more animated than Pence.”
No doubt that has some entertainment value.
… … from a commenter of the Washington
Post’s opinion columnists’ blog also
following the debate, ” Trump gaslights
frenetically. Pence gaslights calmly. ”
Blue
Yes, that is what America has been waiting for: A calm gaslighter. Someone who can lie with the best of them.
Pence sure knocked that one out of the park about what he’d want Indiana to do about legal abortion if Roe were overruled.
WTF?
I think I’m going to check out of this one early- thanks to all for sharing your viewpoints and allowing me to do the same.
I don’t know why Biden/Harris don’t just dodge the court packing question by pointing out that it is Congress that determines that.
I had the same thought.
Not exactly. Presidents nominate justices. The Senate confirms. Unless the president is a Democrat and the Senate is controlled by Moscow Mitch. Then it ignores nominations.
I am talking about increasing the number of justices which, as far as I know, is solely a Congressional decision. After the number is increased, the President can start nominating.
Ah. You are correct.
Oooo, Senator Harris in re white supremacy and
Mr Trump last week. ¡ Gooood ON her !
Blue
The fly was the highlight of the evening.
That fly got to the carcass while it’s still warm.
VP Renfield
When did the fly appear? I missed it!
“That fly got to the carcass while it’s still warm.”
Do you think the fly, unlike the coronavirus, had a preference between the two debaters?
LOL. From all appearances. You can get a complete answer in the upcoming interview.
https://twitter.com/Drebae_/status/1314031052319457281?s=20
Maybe a requirement for a (V)POTUS candidate should be to have dark hair. Y’know, just in case a fly should happen by.
NYT’s Frank Bruni blesses readers with his pearls of wisdom about the fly. He references what he perceives to be Pence’s “constipated half-smile.” As a former food writer, no doubt he’s an expert on constipation.
Turns out the fly had a clear preference. Details are found here.
Well, it’s over now, thank goodness. Harris finished well even though she could have done better in the first half. Pence was the opposite, better at first and then went bad in the last half. At the end of the day, it made little difference. Trump is finished and that is all that matters. Like they said, more than 5 million people have already voted and in the next two weeks about 10 million more.
Pence’s secret formula, besides evasion, is to list DT’s rally talking points with as much sincerity as he can muster. Unfortunately, all DT’s supporters accept it already. The needle will not move.
Harris did a good job of assuring people that if she has to take over the oval office, she is able.
The fly chose Pence. Any questions?
A fly knows BS when it sees it.
Democrat forever😍😍